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Contradicting information[edit]

Untitled[edit]

The articles states Nisibis was home to the Legio I Parthica from 360 to the 5th century (implyimg the city was partof the roman empire during that time), but it also mentions that in 363 the city was ceded to the Persian and evacuated by the Romans. Both things can't be true.--Kmhkmh (talk) 10:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Bible[edit]

I am not sure, but biblical name Nezib ( by the way original vulgata transcription from hebreic letters is Nesib) is rooted in village in former Palestina, near of Hebron, which is mentionned in Old Testament, e.g. Nezib - Jos 15:43 as standing place, but word Nesib has a lot of other meanings, but not according to the village Nisibis - Nisibis was formed later thanks to older pattern in Palestina. Jiri Nesiba —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.102.21.122 (talkcontribs) 11:25, 18 August 2006.

I'm not quite sure where this is going, but the town mentioned in Joshua is נציב (Nəṣîḇ). In Syriac, Nisibis was called ܢܨܝܒܝܢ (Nəṣîḇîn), but its old name was ܨܘܒܐ (Ṣôḇâ), which means 'a resort' or 'meeting place'. — Gareth Hughes 14:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was no consensus to move.Mets501 (talk) 00:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

NisibisNusaybin – "Nusaybin" is the modern name for the city, and also the name that Britannica uses as well. "Nisibis" is what it was known as during antiquity, which is why I think this article should be moved (to reflect the present). —Khoikhoi 00:49, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

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  • Hmmm... Support if Nusaybin is currently inhabited (as it appears to be at tr:Nusaybin) and it is in the same place as Nisibis. However, German Wikipedia splits it into de:Nisibis and de:Nusaybin. -  AjaxSmack  07:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Abstain. Why shouldn't there be two articles? What does the modern habitation have to do with the site in Antiquity? They should link to each other, of course. Cf. Smyrna and İzmir. Quite different concerns, minor overlap. --Wetman 08:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Abstain . I am tempted to vote for the move, especially since the modern name is a continuation of the ancient, but on the other hand, those who prepared this page clearly did it with Nisibis in mind, not modern Nusaybin, on which nothing of substance has yet been added. Therefore, I don't know. Mylasa and Tralleis redirects but there are bits of information reaching to our day. Therefore, I am not sure. Cretanforever
  • Support. They are the same city, right? We should have this in the history sections of Nusaybin article.Baristarim 03:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Temporary Oppose. Hmm, I came to this page to close the RM, but I'll comment instead. Principally, I'd approve the move, but there are almost no traces of the modern city in this article. That is not the case with most examples pointed out by Khoikhoi (except Nicaea, which I'd rather move back according to the same principle). The modern city is not small though, [1] and, provided someone is willing to spend some time writing about modern city and its post-antic history, I'll switch to support. Duja 08:12, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
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Please add explanation of name "Nizib"[edit]

This town appears to have been known as "Nizib" during the 18th century, at least (from a soon-to-be published book on Mehemet Ali). Could someone who knows more about the naming history add an explanation? Currently a search for "Nizib" turns up nothing. Thanks--Pharillon 00:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Nizip lies well to the west and is between Gaziantep and Şanlıurfa. Somewhat confusingly it is also known as Nusaybin al-Rum (the Roman or Greek Nisibis) but it is a completely different settlement from Nisibis/Nusaybin.

With regard to the query above about whether these places were Roman or Persian at certain dates, the answer is they were both. i.e this area then known as Northern Mesopotamia and today as Southern or Southeastern Turkey was a war zone with the frontier shifting painfully between the two sides in different battles and military campaigns. This really ought to be brought out in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barchard (talkcontribs) 13:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Old names of Nusaybin and Nizip (Nezib) were Nisibis. Takabeg (talk) 09:39, 7 August 2011 (UTC)