Talk:O'Rahilly's historical model

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This article is just begging for individual page and/or section citations from O'Rahilly's works. I will keep that on my 'to do' list, but I also invite other interested folk to do the same. P.MacUidhir 21:45, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

"no longer universally accepted"[edit]

If his ideas are no longer universally accepted, what ideas are? Perhaps someone could also give a sort of point-by-point critique? Ardric47 04:24, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

More to the point, were his ideas ever universally accepted? Or even widely? Did anyone besides O'Rahilly himself ever believe them? —Angr 14:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
At some point some anon took out a paragraph referring to it not being generally accepted. I've added another paragraph with references to Jackson and Koch who are two main critics of his work on the historical linguistical side of things. Paul S (talk) 19:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Great addition. Under it I've added two introductory lines on what remains accepted. I suppose we could mention how Francis John Byrne makes frequent reference to this aspect of his work in his great Irish Kings and High-Kings. DinDraithou (talk) 20:09, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Added a citation needed as a placeholder Paul S (talk) 23:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I would very much appreciate it if you could provide me with the Koch article. I would like to use it for Iverni and other articles I have been working on. Koch is a great scholar. But Emania is impossible to get where I live. DinDraithou (talk) 00:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I've have been looking all over for it myself, but with no success. I've only seen the article cited by others or listed in bibliographies. Paul S (talk) 11:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

" the name of leinster[edit]

Is the name of Leinster not due to Welsh settlers from the Llyn peninsula, who the Vikings gave the name of the province to as in Lands of the Men of the Llyn (peninsula) - Llyn-ster - Llyn state

I agree however the Vikings used the word stadr meaning territory/place rather than the Anglicised form ster. Same for Ulaidh Stadr (Ulster) and also Munster. Mabuska (talk) 21:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
As an update to my above response, the Irish settled in the Llyn peninsula in Wales, and the Welsh word Llyn is supposed to be dervied from the same root as Laighin which Leinster is named after. Mabuska (talk) 20:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)