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Removing the list of founding parties[edit]

I would propose to remove the list of founding parties. It is not very helpful, bulky and not covered by the references anymore.

--Konrad Foerstner (talk) 10:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Disagree. The list made it clear to me that it is not a bottom-up initiative, and that it has commercial as well as academic backing. Knowing who is not irrelevant either. Marinheiro (talk) 21:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

There was no ref supporting the founding parties list; I replaced it with the first two groups of organizations listed as Sponsors on the linked ORCID page as it currently stands. ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:09, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

I added a paragraph on the "member organizations", which do not seem to be identical to the "sponsors". Rather than a full list, I have tried to summarize the essential composition of the member community: about 50% publishers, 50% others (universities, companies, foundations etc.; in each category there are important players among them). --Yen Zotto (talk) 13:23, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Used on Wikipedia[edit]

We've now got ORCID IDs working in Wikipedia, in {{Authority control}}, as part of Wikipedia:Authority control. Here's an example: John Wilbanks. There's also one on my user page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:08, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

ORCIDs for Wikipedia editors[edit]

Wikipedia editors may obtain an ORCID by registering at orcid.org. They can then place {{Authority control}} on their user page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:56, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Many wp editors use pseudonyms. Could you clarify how ORCID approaches these? Are there provisions to protect against unwanted outing? LeadSongDog come howl! 03:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
I edit under a pseudonym, and have and use an ORCID. I presume you mean people who edit under a pseudonym to preserve anonymity. Such individuals can either register an ORCID under that pseudonym (useful if, for instance, they also publish under it elsewhere), or not make a connection between their pseudonymous username and their real-name ORCID. Or not register one at all - it's not compulsory. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:09, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Another answer: ORCID is a strict subset of ISNI, which is defined by the ISO to be a name identifier not a person identifier. If a person's name changes ( they use a pseudonym, change name after marriage, etc, etc) they can get a new ORCID / ISNI for the new name. If name is abbreviated, translated or transliterated, it's considered a variant of the same and can use the same ORCID / ISNI. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:59, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
While in theory someone could get a new ORCID on a change of name, the intention is the opposite; someone who changes their name (for reasons of marriage/divorce, religion, or whim) can use their ORCID to show that the works published under both names are by the same person. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:20, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Do you have a link for that 'intention'? I'm not seeing this on the ORCID website. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:40, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

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  • "Also know as/Other names: Additional names you may be known by, such as with an abbreviated first name, maiden name, or name in a different character set. For each other name, record the complete name in the order it typically appears. You can add as many other names as needed." - [1] (my emphasis; ORCID website)
    • At my suggestion, they've just changed "maiden name" to read "married or single name"
  • "researcher names are not unique, can change..." - [2]
  • "The system would distinguish between the world's multitudinous Dr Smiths and Professor Wangs, but would not be affected by name changes" - [3]
  • "A researcher’s ORCID identifier will be persistent throughout changes in the researcher’s own name" [4]
  • "This can reduce or eliminate confusion when the same person's name appears in different ways in various publications, when people have the same or similar names, or when people change their name, e.g. following marriage." - [5]

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:09, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Proposal to add ORCID to our citation templates[edit]

Please see Help talk:Citation Style 1#ORCID. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:38, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

ORCID and Wikipedia[edit]

I now sit - as a Wikipedian - on the ORCID "works metadata" working group. I can use that channel to raise any issues about the interface between ORCID and Wikipedia. Please drop a note on my talk age if you wish me to do so. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:14, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Some publishers[edit]

It is not correct to source the statement "Some publishers" to one example of a publisher using that format. For example, it could only be Wikipedia that uses that format. Who knows! :) A proper citation is required, not an example. --Errant (chat!) 15:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

ISNI and ORCID[edit]

For want of another example, I've used my own ISNI and ORCID as references for one person having each type of identifier. If that offends anyone's sensibilities, feel free to switch to an alternative. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedian in Residence[edit]

As of today, I am Wikipedian in Residence at ORCID. The role is described in Announcing ORCID's Wikipedian-in-Residence. Please let me know if I can assist you, in that or any other capacity. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:22, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Notable users[edit]

We now have 100 articles about people with ORCIDs. We could add a section listing the most significant:

What do folk think? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:01, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd go for a range rather than 'most significant.' Probably use {{Main category}} to link to Category:Wikipedia_articles_with_ORCID_identifiers to eliminate the urge to include everyone. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks; I thought of that, but - AIUI - we're not supposed to link to hidden tracking categories from mainspace. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:22, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
WP:HIDDENCAT doesn't mention that. I agree that normally we have no reason to link to them, but here it's directly relevant. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:53, 20 July 2014 (UTC)