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Former good article Oakland Raiders was one of the Everyday life good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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[edit] Ga review

I quickly failed it because no work was being done after two days and there is so much work that it was a automatic fail anyways. Talk:Oakland Raiders/GA2 is the link for advise. Thanks Secret account 17:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction

The current version of the introduction is quite shoddy. I've tried to fix it twice now, but have been reverted by an editor. As a few examples of what needs improvement, the first sentence says they are a "team in the NFL", but there's no explanation of what the NFL is. The second sentence explains they're in the "National Football League (NFL)". This is redundant. Additionally, the paragraph moves right into the history of the franchise, with a very unclear account of how Oakland got the spot originally intended for Minneapolis. This needs to be rewritten to make it clear why it's important. Then, we're greeted with a bunch of random information about the team's struggles in its first years and how it turned itself around, but there is no mention whatsoever of the twelve years they spent in LA, or the very big news of how they returned to Oakland. Lead sections are intended to summarize the whole article; that's something that clearly needs to be there. That's enough for a start.--Cúchullain t/c 01:47, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

If it would help, when the New England Patriots article was the April 3, 2006 featured article on the Main Page, the first sentence lacked "team in the NFL". Here's the version of the Patriots article just before it went live on the Main Page that you could use as a model (but please note that the guidelines on Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lead section) were a bit different four years ago). Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:59, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Yes, standards have evolved a bit, but it's still a good starting point. (The Good Article version of this article is also quite old, too, but worth a look). I'd say we're getting to a good place now.--Cúchullain t/c 13:12, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Retired numbers

In the Retired numbers section, there's this: The number 00, worn by Jim Otto for his entire career, is no longer allowed by the NFL.[69] It was originally permitted for him only by the AFL as a marketing gimmick since his jersey number 00 is a homophone pun of his name (aught-O), which I don't believe is correct, as other players (Ken Burroughs) wore 00. It probably is correct that it was an AFL thing and possibly that he was the first to have the number, but it can't be that it was permitted "for him" (alone). - 74.162.148.39 (talk) 04:21, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Ted Hendricks photo

Let's look for a consensus - should the Ted Hendricks photo be included? Does a photo of him in particular, and in street clothes specifically, add substance to this article? SixFourThree (talk) 20:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)SixFourThree

[edit] Raiders owners

The SF Chronicle only says "The team will remain in the Davis family." It does not say if that means Al's wife and son, or only one. The NFL.com article, which says it is based off the Chronicle article, somehow assumed that meant both Carol and Mark. While that is likely, we should not speculate and just say "Davis family" for now.—Bagumba (talk) 02:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] first team in NFL history to lose at least 11 games in seven straight seasons?

 I am looking for some verification
of the information in the Oakland Raiders wikipedia article.
 In that article it says
". At the end of their 2009 campaign,
the Raiders became the first team in NFL history
to lose at least 11 games in seven straight seasons."
This sentence can be found at the bottom of the second to last paragraph
in the section entitled: "Coaching carousel 2004 to present."
I don't believe this is a true record
and I would like to see the documentation
and/or a link to the verification of 

this so called "record" please.

Therefore I have added a [citation needed] Thank you, Skullpatrol (talk) 11:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Rob

[edit] Possibly inaccurate information

"At the end of their 2009 campaign, the Raiders became the first team in NFL history to lose at least 11 games in seven straight seasons."

skullpatrol doesn't think this is true.

Once you find a reference, be bold and edit the article yourself, citing your reference.

Enjoy your editing! Someone out there will appreciate more accurate information.

Entwhiz (talk) 11:03, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Former Rivalry Between LA Raiders and Seahawks.

I don't know how to add this, or even if I should, but when the Raiders were in LA there was a rivalry between them and the Seahawks where they even played each other in the playoffs twice, once for the AFC championship. This rivalry was huge until the Raiders moved back to Oakland and the Seahawks moved back to the NFC. 142.179.70.179 (talk) 19:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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