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Onam Introduction[edit]

In second line it says that Onam is a 'National Harvest Festival' of Kerala. It makes no sense as the word 'national' cant be used in this context, Kerala being state of India. Even on the official Kerala government page (http://www.kerala.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3700&Itemid=2753) it describes Onam as grand national harvest festival, but it doesn't specifically says national festival "of Kerala". So it should be replaced with 'harvest festival of Kerala'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishek D sinha (talkcontribs) 08:03, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --    L o g  X   14:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Image of Puli Kali and Boat Race[edit]

There is no image of "Puli Kali" and "Boat Race" which I think is required. We can replace one of the three Onappookkalam images with a "Puli Kali" and another one with Boat Race. -- Achyuth —Preceding undated comment added 11:45, 9 September 2011 (UTC).


Happy Onam![edit]

Taking out the "Critical Views" section. Critical views of anything including a festival should be discussed separately on separate pages and should not be used to distract from the main article. Please refrain from vandalising any article with a particular point of view whether critical or not. -- Abhijna

Also read the edit summaries before putting back the "Critical Views." -- Abhijna

Alternate Legend[edit]

In an alternate legend, it is believed by many Malayalees that during the Onam Parasurama visits Kerala.[1] Dr. Gundert defines in his Malayalam Dictionary, Onam, as the day that Parasurama recovered Kerala from the sea.[2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.2.228.162 (talk) 07:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, according to Puranas, Because, Parasurama recovered Kerala from the sea and his time was after the rule of Mahabali. Mahabali was in Kritha yuga, the first of four yugas. Parasurama was in Threthayuga, the second one. Then how can Mahabali rule Kerala which was recovered from sea after his period?. The rule of Mahabali in Kerala, Vamana sending him to Paathaala, and Mahabali's homecoming are all fabricated storys. Onam is really the birth day of Lord Vamana. The "Thrikkakkarayappan" we make, is actually the Lord Vamana of Thrikkakkara Temple. [3]

Image[edit]

The picture of Trivandrum Railaway Station Building on the Onam night is totally incongrous with the article. The modern day Onam celeberation can be better highlighted through a picture of a boat race. --K N Unni 11:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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Onappookkalam[edit]

Amolnaik2k (talk) 07:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The Onappookkalam illustrated is indeed an Onappookkalam but not a "Typical" one. The basic rule is that it should be symmetrical. But the illustrated one has an image of the snake boat which is not "symmetrical" from all directions.

Do we need so many Pookalams?[edit]

We have 3 pookalam images and additional one showing children making one. We should keep the one with the children and remove 2 of the others. What do you guys think? Virtualage (talk) 13:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Accessibility[edit]

An Indian work colleague mentioned this to me today, so I came looking for further details. I haven't the time (as I'm still at work!) to read the article completely, or do any editing, but there needs to be more explanation for someone like me who knows nothing about this culture. In particular, the lede paragraph is devoid of any wikilinks, yet every non-English word is an unknown to me. -- Hymek (talk) 08:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Hindu festival[edit]

One of the very few sources we have for this article clearly states it is a Hindu festival. If we need to elaborate what this means, please provide sources to do so. --Ronz (talk) 16:35, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

It is mentioned about Onam that it is a Hindu festival. It is celebrated by Keralites all over the world, irrespective of their religions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Susan143341michael (talkcontribs) 15:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Are you proposing a change to the article? --Ronz (talk) 17:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 September 2013[edit]

I want to edit this because of a sentence that tells Mahabali as king of Malayalis. It is not like that. Bali coming to Earth was a boon given to that benevolent king of Earth by Lord Vishnu when he sent Bali as Emperor of Patala lokam. Hence, every year when Bali supposed to come to the Earth, that would be celebrated as Onam festival in Kerala.

123.201.225.177 (talk) 04:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Can you please provide a reliable source for this information? Given that we're discussing ancient stories, is there a possibility that there are multiple versions of the stories? --Ronz (talk) 17:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 September 2013[edit]

Onam is the national festival of Kerala. It is not a hindu festival. 115.112.151.66 (talk) 03:13, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

We've a source that says otherwise, and a discussion on the topic here. --Ronz (talk) 17:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 September 2013[edit]

196.15.16.104 (talk) 05:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC) It is a National Festival of Kerala, not specific to religion

See the above edit request. There has been discussion on the topic and sources provided to show otherwise. If you wish to start a new discussion on the topic, you need to provide reliable sources that support your assertion, and you don't need to use the "editsemiprotected" template. Dana boomer (talk) 11:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


The reason that Onam may be called a 'Religious festival' by many, is mostly due to its roots, which come from the Hindu mythological story of King Mahabali . However, for sometime, Onam has evolved into one that is celebrated by people across all religions in Kerala. One of the sources I can cite for this is here : [4]. Note the statement that "Of late, it has evolved into a national festival of all the Malayalees, irrespective of their religious affiliation."

Another reference I cite for this is the official Kerala government website (though I have noted a few errors on this page too). [5] . Here, Onam is not referred to as a religious festival, but Vishu, Deepavali, and Mahashivrathri are called so. Also, note the statement "The Mahasivarathri is essentially a religious festival unlike the Onam and Thiruvathira".

Often, it is the case that festivals originating from one religion, are later adopted by celebrated by people across differing faiths. The same goes for many fests such as Christmas , which is a very widespread festival celebrated by people of several faiths. However, (to quote another article of this type) I note that the article on Christmas does not specify it as being a 'Christian' festival, though it does mention it is of 'Christian' type, and celebrated by many non-Christians.

I propose that we modify the article to read that so: "Onam (Malayalam: ഓണം) is the most popular festival celebrated by the people of Kerala, India.[1] It derives its roots from the Hindu mythology of King Mahabali. It is also the Harvest festival of Kerala with State holidays on ..." ... (rest of the article)

I will post more references if I can find them.

Harivishnu (talk) 04:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into this.
From what you've provided so far, we have alternative descriptions rather than justification for removing the current description. The reviewed book would likely provide the information we need to resolve this. --Ronz (talk) 16:50, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


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