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British Columbia Adds Government Run Online Gambling
Myself and 4 other students from the University of Hull are looking to improve this page as part of an assignment for a module called 'Psychology of internet behaviour'. Although currently doing some research, any tips or other contributors would be great. Please state below if you have any thoughts or suggestions on the page. # Henry Brown 08:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm going to get some statistics regarding revenue generated by gambling and get that up on the page soon :). Rpullen (talk) 09:19, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- Im going to look into the financial side of the Online gambling industry, and look into more depth on the funds transfer section. JamesKnight90 (talk) 10:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Efforts to improve the page are always welcome, but care should be taken to follow Wikipedia rules and policies. In this case, this is a contention issue where not only is their a lot of opinionated content out there but also a lot of just made up stuff meant to support someone's agenda. So, that means references need to be pretty high quality. The main wiki policy on this is WP:V. In short, just because something is written on the Internet doesn't mean it necessarily can be used as a source. Unsigned article on anonymous websites promoting online gambling are not reliable sources. In addition, they are probably just repeating something already written on some other site. In general it is best to stick with mainstream newspapers or gambling commission-type websites to source historical statements. If none can be found, the information shouldn't be added. Specifically, the claim to be "the first" anything has monetary value to that company, so we shouldn't have any claim about that that is not made verifiable by a very reliable source. 2005 (talk) 19:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi 2005, thank you for taking the time to reply in depth and help us with this subject, I will be sure to strengthen the reliability of the sources on this page, otherwise make sure it is removed. # Henry Brown 16:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henryz14 (talk • contribs)
Thanks for the information 2005, has been a great help while being in this group, hope you're liking the look of this page as a more experienced Wikipedian Danpickup1986 (talk) 19:16, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Large US Legal Section
I feel that the page is overwhelmed with a history of the United States' legal issues within gambling. Whilst I appreciate that it's all well referenced and someone's gone to a lot of effort to create that section, does this article need all of the past laws, or should the section be cut down to only display the more recent law changes in the US? Rpullen (talk) 21:36, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- I reckon it can be reduced in size without losing to much information, it just seems to dominate over the rest of the page. J Knight (talk) JamesKnight90 (talk) 09:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Some of the stuff is trivia now, like each individual bill introduced that never was passed. Those all could be removed except whatever was the first one by saying something like "the first of several...". 2005 (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Ill look into shortening it down slightly i think it will help balance out the page a bit better as it jseems a tad cluttered and un organised at present JamesKnight90 (talk) 10:46, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello everyone - I'm keen to get a separate page going for both the financial and regulatory sides of online gambling. Today's copy of the FT has a special report on doing business in the Isle of Man; in it there is an interesting section on how the Isle of Man has become a haven for Asian online gaming companies given, for example, its regulations and climate (it is less vulnerable to typhoons and hence safer to host large data centres). If there is enough traction I would be keen to start a new page on Wikipedia and would appreciate any views on this. Thanks. 127rahmat (talk) 18:22, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- Have you looked into newspaper articles, im sure there have been more recent stories... JamesKnight90 (talk) 11:14, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Good Morning, Shane. I happen to have placed two useful resources within the notes section of the page - references 51 and 53, I believe, although I do stand to be corrected. These resources only pertain to UK based online gambling, however, they come from a marvellous source from which one can confidently reference. Rpullen (talk) 11:18, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Anyone got any ideas on how to reduce the bulk of the legality section...? Its almost a page in its own... Is it worth just leaving as is and building up around it...? JamesKnight90 (talk) 12:44, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello everyone - I'm keen to get a separate page going for both the financial and regulatory sides of online gambling. Today's copy of the FT has a special report on doing business in the Isle of Man; in it there is an interesting section on how the Isle of Man has become a haven for Asian online gaming companies given, for example, its regulations and climate (it is less vulnerable to typhoons and hence safer to host large data centres). If there is enough traction I would be keen to start a new page on Wikipedia and would appreciate any views on this. Thanks. 127rahmat (talk) 18:26, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of statements here with no support is it worth looking into finding support for them or re writing the sections?
Online poker tables commonly offer Texas hold 'em, Omaha, Seven-card stud, razz, HORSE and other game types in both tournament and ring game structures. Players play against each other rather than the "house", with the card room making its money through "rake" and through tournament fees.
There are a large number of online casinos in which people can play casino games such as roulette, blackjack, pachinko, baccarat and many others. These games are played against the "house" which makes money due to the fact that the odds are in its favor.
There are a number of online bingo rooms offering games on the Internet.
Most lotteries are run by governments and are heavily protected from competition due to their ability to generate large taxable cash flows. The first online lotteries were run by private individuals or companies and licensed to operate by small countries. Most private online lotteries have stopped trading as governments have passed new laws giving themselves and their own lotteries greater protection. Government controlled lotteries now offer their games online.
Horse racing betting
Horse racing betting comprises a significant percentage of online gambling wagers and all major Internet bookmakers, betting exchanges, and sports books offer a wide variety of horse racing betting markets
Developments in the use of wireless, mobile devices to gamble follow in the wake of mainstream online gambling.
- These sections should just be a sentence or two pointing people to the main article. ideally they would even just be repeating a sentnce from the main article. The main articles are where the references are on these subjects. For example the online poker article has 30 or so references. So the statements in this article just need to reflect the referenced content in the sub articles. There is no harm in having a strong reference here too, but really when it says "see main article" that more or less is the reference for the one or two summary sentences. The fursther information is in the main sub articles, or should be at least. 2005 (talk) 18:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Please don't fundamentally alter the structure of the article. The above sections exist to clearly point users to the appropriate sub-articles where these issues are dealt with in depth. As mentioned above, these sections don't need references. They just include a short summary of the articles where they have their own references. This article doesn't exist to repeat what is written elsewhere. Wikipedia takes care to avoid content forks, where the same thing is described differently or contradictorily in more than one place. Similarly this article doesn't exist to describe problem gambling symptoms or treatment. There is an article that covers that which this article points to. Any other ideas about problem gambling should be included in the main problem gambling article, and written in the third person. 2005 (talk) 18:53, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I have change some of the forms of online gambling as you requested 500 "ideally they would even just be repeating a sentnce from the main article". How are we feeling with our page now gents? shaneprendergast
UK Lottery and maybe others?
I have written some information on the UK national Lottery as there doesn't seem to be a page on Wikipedia at the moment. I am also in the group at the University of hull editing this as part of a project, so am new to this, but I was thinking, would it be worth adding some information on the charity work national lottery do, or should I just leave it as simply information about the lottery, then make a seperate page about the national Lottery in the UK?? Also, if anyone else would like to add information about the lottery systems in their countries or regions, I'm sure it would help to build this page and make it more informative. Danpickup1986 (talk) 19:12, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- There is an article on the National Lottery (United Kingdom). The section added probably shouldn't be where it is. It should instead be here: Online lottery. In general, pages like this online gambling one are not great for a class to take on because they are already structured and have had tons of people editting them. In contrast, the online lottery article is a disaster. Hopefully it can be within your class scope to put that UK lottery content into the online lottery article, and add a lot more information there. (Just don't duplicate standard lottery information already found in the lottery article.) 2005 (talk) 18:23, 22 March 2012 (UTC)