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Commercial data[edit]

What if OpenStreetMap is used by a commercial company what makes profit from using OSM? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hopelessless (talkcontribs) 21:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Commercial companies are allowed to use OpenStreetMap and create derived works from it, but all uses must come with attribution (links back to OpenStreetMap) and all derivations must be released with the same license. This does not prohibit charging for distribution of derived works, but it means downstream consumers can further distribute the work for free (Wikipedia is the same in fact)
Contributors to OpenStreetMap are not only creating a free map. They are helping to democratise access to geodata. While other maps are owned and licensed by big corporations (Ordnance Survey, Navtech, Google) OpenStreetMap is spawning an ecosystem of commercial and non-commercial users (see techcrunch article) including freelance consultants, and open source developers, all of whom have access to the data under the terms of the OpenStreetMap license.
There are competing projects which permit non-commercial use, but to create a truly free map you have to allow it, indeed allowing commercial use is one of the most exciting things you can do with a free map!
-- Harry Wood (talk) 14:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

How can comercial satellite data and yahoo maps be used if this is meant to be an open content project? 71.5.113.131 2007-05-11T02:19:58

There is a Yahoo-OSM agreement allowing just this. In other words, Yahoo consciously allows creation of open content based on their imaginery. See [1]. Ask SteveC or the project mailing lists if you need more info. Ivansanchez 08:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
The maps also say they are copyright Navteq and TeleAtlas. Have these companies also given their permission to make the data available under the Creative Commons licence? --Astrokey44 03:02, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
The maps are not copyright Navteq or TeleAtlas. The copyright notice is wrong (and has now been fixed). --ChaRleyTroniC 15:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
The agreement is for the aerial imagery from Yahoo!, not for the maps. 81.153.233.246 00:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong to use data which is also in other ways commercially used. Every data used in OSM has to be copyrighted because all data must be licensed under CC-by-sa. -- mms 12:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

TierraWiki link[edit]

Can anyone see a good reason for having this in the "See Also" section? The project doesn't have the same aims as OSM (map the planet versus record some hiking trails), isn't open content licensed (and is therefore incompatible with OSM) and only has a single technical component in common (it uses GPX files).

There are TierraWiki external links on quite a few WP pages with only a tenuous connection -- are they link spammers, perhaps?

If no-one objects, I'll remove this link (again) in five days.

Jonobennett (talk) 11:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Why is an external link in the See also section, anyway? Lurker (said · done) 12:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I've removed it. There seem to be a lot of links to TierraWiki on Wikipedia, and their article was deleted twice. Lurker (said · done) 12:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Yahoo Imagery[edit]

The use of Yahoo! imagery is not the result of a "special agreement", from what I read a Yahoo representative confirmed that using the imagery as a backdrop/overlay for hand editing was within the standard terms of use for the image data. I would be pleased if someone could adjust the article accordingly, I don't have time right now! (Here's a source for my comment from the OSM wiki) —tedp (talk) 13:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Even though it took me three edits (one regular and two corrections... I really consider myself a precise worker, always rereading what I write, but somehow...) I think it's a bit more accurate now, at least the section is sourced. — Ewald (talk|email|contrib) 18:36, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

New licence for OSM?[edit]

"OpenStreetMap data is published using a Creative Commons 2.0 license. A new license is being prepared."

A CC license is ambiguous, that should state CC-SA 2.0 specifically, and does a new license is being prepared mean that the project is upgrading to CC-SA 3.0? --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 16:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I added the ref from the lead to the section you meant, to clarify. As I'm not too much of an expert on Creative Commons, and don't really have the time to become one now, I'm sure that the licensing could use additional clarification.— Ewald (talk|email|contrib) 07:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

The 'website' infobox seems all wrong to me. The infobox should refer to the project and to the idea itself, not to the website or the foundation (important as they are). Is there a better infobox for a project? Can we have a line for the number of contributors? PeterIto (talk) 07:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Other render engines[edit]

Maybe openstreetmap scout could be added to the rendering engines/ OSM visualising tool? [2] (although it uses mapnik engine?) -> well it is not a complete renderer, it only adds detail on top of a existing map

Description of Automotive Navigation Data's contribution is repeated[edit]

I think the "Commercial data sources" section is (partly) redundant. It is more like a history section. There is already a section called "History". (Or conversely: some of the History section is redundant.)

What do you think?

--Mortense (talk) 13:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Should section "Map data" be changed?[edit]

In section "Map data": what is the meaning of these 3 lines?:

OpenStreetMap osm

CloudMade osm, garmin

Geofabrik osm, esri

It does not make sense to me.

And should osm be OSM? And garmin be Garmin? And esri be ESRI? (the company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRI ?)

Isn't "OpenStreetMap osm" redundant? (OpenStreetMap 2 times.)

What do you think?

--Mortense (talk) 17:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I believe osm, garmin, and esri refer to file formats Pnorman (talk) 00:02, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject[edit]

WikiProject OpenStreetMap was recently marked as inactive. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 14:41, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Huh?[edit]

Boy, is this article complicated! I can understand only a fraction of it. Yours in puzzlement, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

usage map[edit]

The scale on the usage map goes from 10 million to 2 million. Someone who knows if it's supposed to be 20 million or if the colors are wrong should fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.124.115.34 (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The hits for Germany (highest country) in Feb 2011 were 19305525. I'm part of the OpenStreetMap sysadmin team -- Firefishy (talk) 17:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Sources to enhance article[edit]

The OpenStreeMap wiki contains a page set devoted to news about OSM (OpenStreetMap in the media), another for books (Books) and a third for scientific research (Research). Content of these three pages could be used to enhance the OSM article and/or articles about cartography and open source information movements. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Relationship of OSM to MapQuest?[edit]

It may improve the article to clarify the relationship between online map service Mapquest (wholly-owned subsidiary of AOL) and OSM. It's difficult to comprehend the 'OpenStreetMap' MQ is supporting [3] and the nature of the relationship. [4] In particular, what does this mean: 'MapQuest earmarked $1 million in resources to help improve the OSM data in the United States with the stated intention of possibly using OSM data for their maps of the U.S. in the future'?? (The article makes no mention of MapQuest.) Twang (talk) 08:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Not sure what you're finding difficult to comprehend, but let me explain a little.
Any commercial company is permitted and welcome to use OpenStreetMap data. MapQuest are using the data to create various services as a separate area of their website: http://open.mapquestion.com . These services all adhere to the share-alike license, and support the growth of OpenStreetMap by bringing it to new end users and new mobile/web developers, but additionally they're running some services such as the 'TIGER edited map' specifically to spur growth of OpenStreetMap mapping in the U.S. The "$1 million in resources" mostly means they are paying the salaries of a team of people to work on this stuff.
Perhaps the article should mention this. Maybe there should be a separate section about commercial data users. The current sentence about CloudMade seems like a misleading throw-away remark which does nothing to explain the relationship (and in fact increasingly there is no relationship. CloudMade seem to be scaling back their involvement in OSM lately) Meanwhile people like Geofabrik continue to provide great examples of (smaller) companies working with OpenStreetMap.
I know this because I used to work at CloudMade, and know a few people who work at MapQuest, but mainly because I'm very active and involved in OpenStreetMap as a volunteer/enthusiast.
-- Harry Wood (talk) 01:15, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I do think it would be worth expanding on what mapquest does because if you go on openstreetmap, one of the options in the corner (along with standard, cyclemap, and transport map) is 'mapquest open'. It's not clear to me what this does, or how it is different from the standard data/view?Iamsorandom (talk) 17:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

What is Nokia's Ovi Maps for Maemo doing in this article?[edit]

Found it in "Map rendering and presentation"/Desktop - do they really use OSM? Richiez (talk) 20:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

AFAIK, the Maemo (N900) version indeed uses OSM – at least as an alternative option. I could swear I've read that on a Nokia blog many months ago. I can try to find it but no promises. --KAMiKAZOW (talk) 00:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Just checked on my N900, the maps are all copyright OVI, Navteq, Nav2/NavInfo, no mention of OSM.--Efa (talk) 11:33, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Map data editing[edit]

hi, as this is a collaborative project like Wikipedia, we should add a section "Map data editing" with some elements and software to edit the map data. At least list Potlatch2, Merkaartor and JOSM. This is much important as Merkaartor and JOSM article are link to this page, where now no informations are given on map editing. In noone has something against, I will add--Efa (talk) 11:33, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Grammar[edit]

I realise that 'data' is plural, but saying "these data are" sounds as silly as saying "these furniture are". While it may be technically correct (as some dictionaries claim), it's extremely rare to see it written like this and it just seems awkward. Anyone care to change it?

Moved comment[edit]

how to create job in area choosing, i like to do this in my coutry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.79.47.148 (talk) 15:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Applications[edit]

I added these at the see also section:

apprearantly, Google maps is very bad for downloading the maps for offline use, OSM apps seem to be better but are mostly only for use on Android. See http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/591/how-to-use-gps-maps-without-an-internet-connection http://pocketnow.com/2013/07/22/google-maps-offline

I was wondering: perhaps its useful to make an article called Comparison of off-line GPS software. All programs (using different maps -google maps, OSM, ...-) can be mentioned herein, aswell as the OS on which these apps run. KVDP (talk) 07:55, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

also mention these:

KVDP (talk) 08:25, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Singular Data[edit]

As requested by an unregistered user last year, I've gone through and changed "data" from plural to singular throughout. IMHO "Data was" sounds much better than "Data were". Rojomoke (talk) 17:02, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ Android-based software using OpenStreeMap data