Talk:Oricon

English archives?

• Are there any English archives of Oricon charts available anywhere? Something similar to everyhit.com or chartstats.com but for Japan? Thanks! Wickethewok 14:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Still no answer to this? I'd like to find out if there is an online archive. Iangurteen (talk) 11:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Need logo

Bigtop 21:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The SLAPP suit

The section on the SLAPP suit needs to be expanded, and probably needs a different title. Shinobu 06:49, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

"The Oricon Charts are now Japan’s best-known."

I'm new to the edit history of this page, but there are apparently dozens of edits over this single sentence (and an access date). I apologize for not checking first to see the apparent roaring edit war before reverting User:Zoizoiz2's latest edit as vandalism. I suppose it's not exactly vandalism when taken alone, but when several people keep reverting your edit, perhaps it's worth sitting down to discuss?

That said, I think even though the statement may be true, it's not so important that it's worth edit warring over. The Oricon charts are certainly among the best-known of Japan's music charts. They may even be the most well-known. But I would argue that that's pretty much impossible to find a solid citation for; even though your citations might support that it's quite important, I wouldn't trust any source as to what is the most well-known, particularly not a quickie written by Nippop. (Nothing against Nippop, just that I'm pretty darn sure they didn't do any real research before citing Oricon as the "best-known".) In any case, the information doesn't really add much to the article. Is there any really compelling reason why it should be in here, and do you have a good source for it? —Jediknil (talk) 05:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

No it does not belong in the article, and someone has already mentioned in the article that Tokushin is industry only, while Oricon is open to the public. 220.253.30.70 (talk) 08:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

New supporting Articles needed

I have two red-links in W-inds. to individual-chart Articles waiting to be written: Weekly Albums Chart and Weekly Singles Chart, already prepped for this Article. What References are available for articles on the individual Oricon charts? B. C. Schmerker (talk) 02:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Number Ones by International Artists

Didn't BoA have a number one with 'Do The Motion' in 2005, or does South Korea not count as 'international'? The flying pasty (talk) 17:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Oricon and bulk CD sales change

Please see Talk:AKB48#Record sales concerning a re-evaluation of Oricon rankings based on bulk CD sales, and see if this would be useful to document for this article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:05, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Adding the combined charts as well

Since most charts in other countries are incorporating digital downloads and streaming, is it necessary to add the combined singles and albums chart, introduced in 2018, as a separate list in the articrles because it gives it a more accurate picture of what the country is listening in recent years than sourcing from just physical sales. CrisBalboa1 (talk) 09:15, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Start separate articles for the Combined charts if you are so intent on having them on Wikipedia. I don't want to spend the time conforming mangled VisualEdit-inserted citations on the main Oricon lists. I have integrated listing sales and the archive data, but nothing else from the recent rounds of edits made by Everydhel. I have posted on Everydhel's talk page, and informed them of the same thing—if you wish to include the Combined charts, they should have a different series of articles as they are different charts. There are very few weeks where there is a different number one from the overall physical sales chart—there were only five weeks in 2023 where a different song was number one on the Combined Singles chart from the main physical sales chart. Also, those different digital number ones on the Oricon Combined Singles and Albums charts usually end up being number one on the Japan Hot 100 and Japan Hot Albums as published by Billboard, which already have a series of number-one list articles. I personally find the Combined chart at this stage to be an irrelevant statistic and am opposed to its integration on the main Oricon lists, as like I said, most of the data is literally just being repeated. Readers gain little from its integration other than a more complex table to scan through. Ss112 18:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Fine, I may create those separate list articles for those if you are happy with that. I even noticed you reverted those edits. As I said some of those few weeks have more popular songs the country listens to, though unlike most countries, singles rarely get consecutive weeks of more than two. It is unusual for a country to create a playlist instead of integrating digital download or streaming data to its then main chart as many countries did so. CrisBalboa1 (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Of course I'm fine with that, hence why I suggested it. My issue wasn't with the fact that songs or albums don't spend many consecutive weeks at number one in Japan, it's that there's little differentiation in most weeks between what is number one on the physical charts versus what is number one on the combined chart—that applies to singles and albums. As I pointed out, only five out of 52 weeks in 2023 was a different song number one on the combined chart than the physical chart. If you want to start separate lists that are mostly duplications to document the few variations of successful digital songs in Japan (like Yoasobi's "Idol", NewJeans' songs, and that recent Creepy Nuts song), then go ahead, but as I said, we already have lists for number ones on Billboard Japan's charts, which take digital activity into account. Ss112 22:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)