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Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2018[edit]

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Update "All Time Orlando City SC Coaching Stats" and "All-time appearances" to include 1 draw for Jason Kreis, and 1 start for Joe Bendik (total now to 70.) Also edit both sections to read, "As of March 3, 2018". Tonescapone (talk) 12:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:16, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Orlando City SC (2010–14)[edit]

I believe this article should be merged together with the Orlando City SC (2010–14) article. It seems redundant of us to have two separate articles covering the same team over different periods of time. It would be one thing if it was where the teams had different ownership and disbanded with the rise of a phoenix club, a la AFC Wimbledon, Seattle Sounders FC or SV Austria Salzburg, but these two articles of the same involve the same ownership group. Quidster4040 (talk) 17:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. MLS franchises are distinct legal entities from clubs, which is the case with the Seattle Sounders (1994–2008) vs. Seattle Sounders FC, Montreal, Vancouver and Portland. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. (1) Two distinct entities. (2) Both articles are large, and a merged article would be unnavigable. (3) Severe risk of accidental misediting, e.g. in the player and staff records. Narky Blert (talk) 12:29, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Narky Blert: (1) We're writing an article about the soccer team, not about the company or legal entity. A typical reader doesn't know/care about some legal proceedings, and has no reason to think of a club with the same name, location, owners, colors, etc as a different topic. (2) The articles aren't that large, and a lot of content is redundant. The "History" and "Colors and badge" sections both have a lot of overlap and could be consolidated. The old "Club culture" and "Players and staff" sections from the old article could be entirely dropped. After that there isn't that much more content from the old article left. The article would be longer, sure, but not that much longer. (3) Not sure what this means... –IagoQnsi (talk) 08:01, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per previous opposes and consistent practice with MLS teams in a similar situation, like Montreal, Seattle, Vancouver, and Portland, all of whom were a case of successful minor league owners buying new MLS teams that used the same identities as their predecessors. We have separate articles for them for the same reason: a change in league in the franchise model is a logical place to have a break in the historical narrative. oknazevad (talk) 20:36, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support for the same reasons as I proposed at the Minnesota United discussion. User:Oknazevad talked about the precedent for having separate articles, but frankly, I think the precedent is bad and we should consider merging/restructuring each of those articles as well. Vancouver is a great example of how confusing the current structure is—we have one article that covers the team through a name change and ~5 league changes, but then we arbitrarily start a new article for MLS. Not to mention, this precedent only exists for U.S. articles—for a long time, the rest of the world's football club articles have not moved with league changes. I don't think the lack of a promotion/relegation system in the U.S. is good enough reason to confusingly break up the articles of U.S. clubs. –IagoQnsi (talk) 08:01, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose New team with the same name doesn't make it the same team. Other MLS teams with the same names as minor league teams have separate articles. If you are so concerned, why not create a "History of soccer in Orlando" page like there is for Seattle and Vancouver? KitHutch (talk) 17:18, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This isn't a new team, sources indicated that this is clearly the USL team. Orlando City to play 2014 season at Disney: "... for the 2015 season, when Orlando City is expected to be playing its first season in Major League Soccer. As for that long-awaited MLS invitation for Orlando, Rawlings said it's very close." So they are not "two distinct entities" nor new team. Business entities change their legal form all the time. The Walt Disney Company started out as a partnership under at least two names then incorporated, split into three companies, merged back together, changed its name from Walt Disney Productions to Walt Disney Company then to Disney Enterprise which then became a subsidiary (along with CC/ABC) of the new Walt Disney Company, but it is all recognized as one company. Plus, you would have a mess of Marvel Comics as during its Timely to early Marvel eras, the "company" operated under about 60 corporations - separate legal entities. Spshu (talk) 17:35, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Agree with above. Regardless of the de jure technical legal status, in practical terms there is only 1 entity which should be reflected in 1 article. Per WP:OVERLAP, if "There are two or more pages on related subjects that have a large overlap. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept." BLAIXX 02:58, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Montreal Impact (1992–2011), Minnesota United FC (2010–16), Portland Timbers (2001–10), Seattle Sounders (1994–2008), Vancouver Whitecaps (1986–2010) all have separate articles. No reason Orlando City SC (2010–14) should go against consensus. Joeykai (talk) 16:44, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Orlando City Auto Fill on main Wikipedia splash page.[edit]

When typing in the name of the club on the Wikipedia splash page search field, it pops up "Son of Atlanta United". Does anyone know how to clear this? A.S. Williams (talk) 02:29, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@A.S. Williams: I don't understand the problem you're describing. Please provide additional details. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:42, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Two ultra photos; 1st is one currently in use[edit]

I've posted two photos of the Orlando City ultras. Which is preferable?

Photo 1: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OrlandoCitySupporters1.png
Photo 2: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OrlandoCitySupporters2.png Raskuly (talk) 07:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]