Talk:Oxford Movement

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Much of the upheaval in Victorian England (including the Oxford Movement) is traceable to the effects of the Industrial Revolution. Many traditional farmers were forcibly removed from their land to free it for sheep and wool production. These displaced people had two choices, flee to Manchester, or borrow the means to flee to the Colonies (indentured servitude). Religious leaders in the South of England were very much aware of the human suffering in the North, and openly criticized it. This began a war of words between divines favoring "progress", industry and liberalized views of faith (in the North) versus conservatives who denounced the effects of the Industrial Revolution as ungodly (in the South).

Ref: "Democracy, Science and Industrialism (The Victorian Ag, 1832-1880), as found in "The Literature of England, An Anthology and a History", Volume 2, From the Dawn of the Romantic Movement to the World War. Edited by Woods, Watt and Anderson (1941).

See also Edward G. Engh, "Critical Thinking: Readings from the Literature of Business and Society" 2nd Ed. Pearson, Boston, 2013, pp. 353-374.

Economist Galbraith compares the social effects of the Industrial Revolution, such as the "Highland Clearances" to other great human tragedies. Ref: "The Age of Uncertainty", Houghton Mifflin, Boston, 1977, pp. 11-42.


Introduction[edit]

There are a lot of names being thrown at people in the introduction. Should it be limited to just the most notable? Perhaps it could be included elsewhere in the article? When I see too many names (and sometimes just too many wiki links) I tend to skip over a section. I postulate that other people do that as well. Killiondude (talk) 06:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


I find the information here sufficient. I am researching the Ecclesiastical clothing of the Anglican Church from 1832-2009 as a project for a fellowship grant. From my readings on other web sources on the Oxford Movement, this wiki page has a lot of good information. Leave the links and names and the reader may delve at their discretion. 60.240.184.203 (talk) 09:50, 25 November 2009 (UTC)


WOW! I am amazed that such a comprehensive encyclopedia has no article on the Tracts for the Times! Why don't we just redirect "Bible" to "Christianity" while we're at it ? --92.142.168.213 (talk) 19:32, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


Why the hell does "Catholic revival" redirect to the Oxford movement? Talk about Anglo-centrism! Hello?! Does anybody writing for this rag know that there as an entire world beyond the Anglosphere? Or even that the nineteenth century Catholic revival was strong in the United States? This is a lousy excuse for a reference source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.35.50 (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


There is no citation for the sentence in the section The Early Movement- "Men in the movement argued for the inclusion of traditional aspects of liturgy from medieval religious practice, as they believed the church had become too "plain"." This is very explicit and an important part of the movements stance and thus I would think merits a citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.186.142.34 (talk) 17:47, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

The effect of the Oxford Movement on Church Music[edit]

One very significant effect is completely missed, the replacement of the West Quire with an organ. The performers of the Quire were usually anyone who could play an instrument, and they were generally also most welcome the previous evening in the local hostelries, for exactly the same reason. The result was that performances were frequently variable. The replacement of the hungover second-rate local hackers and bangers with someone formally trained in piano, and later organ, playing, meant the clergy had greater control over the congregation, and the capacity to drown out dissent with a well-timed blast. It had a secondary effect of resuscitating the reputations of a number of German composers, whose corpus of works for the organ had fallen into some disuetude. The handover is clearly documented by Thomas Hardy, whose father was a Quire player, in Under The Greenwood Tree. It is also a minor theme of Trollop's The Barchester Chronicles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.218.129.144 (talk) 08:58, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

More on the effect of the Oxford Movement on Church music can be found on the wikipedia-page on the Hymns Ancient and Modern. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.128.144.16 (talk) 04:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)