Talk:Pachomius the Great

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Ok, we need to reconcile a couple things. Was Pachomius a devotee of Palaemon or Anthony? Both the Coptic article and Butler's make no mention of Anthony. Also, Athanasius' Life of Antony makes no mention of Pachomius. Why wouldn't Athanasius have brought him up, given that they met? Also, what are we to take as the number of monks and monasteries existing when he died? Butler's says there were 3000 monks in 9 monasteries at that time. Carl.bunderson 15:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, the article doesnt say he was a devotee of Anthony or Palaemon. Anthony was famous in his day, everyone knew him and he was the model that everyone followed. But Anthony had no students (student/teacher relationship), he was solitary, he had immitators. It may be controversial who Pachomius was a devotee of, looking at the Catholic Encylopedia article there seem to be various opinions.

The numbers are from a course taught by Kenneth W. Harl from The Teaching Company in which he says "..by one count". Also Harl on the question of who he was a devotee of only says "he came into contact with a number of important ascetics". -- Stbalbach 16:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for the citation! Carl.bunderson 17:18, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

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maru (talk) contribs 04:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Done and done. Carl.bunderson 06:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Criticism[edit]

Besides needing more sources (I would expect that such an influential figure would be thoroughly discussed in the secondary literature, with numerous Vitae originally written not only in Coptic & Latin, but many other languages), what this article is missing is a section on the Pachomian Rule of monastic life. (BTW, when I went to Monastic Rule to find a list of such regulations, I found it was simply a redirect to "Monastery." Odd no one has even thought to compile a list of those things for Wikipedia; it shouldn't be that hard to do.) -- llywrch (talk) 16:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

departed?[edit]

In his Death section, it says "Pachomius then departed on 14 Pashons, 64 A.M. (9 May 348 A.D.)"

Is that a euphemism for his death (if so it should be changed to be more objective)? Or did he actually just depart and leave his monastery? Canine virtuoso (talk) 20:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC)