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    The article needs more on:

    • central sensitization
    • allodynia.
    • pain and consciousness.
    • pain's neurological kinship with social pain.
    • objective measurement of pain
    • drug-seeking behaviour
    • feigned pain in malingering
    • Pain#Assessment_in_nonverbal_patients needs the attention of an expert, or someone willing to read up on the protocols.
    • the relationship between pain and inflammation.
    • central pain.
    • the chemistry of pain.
    • relationship to pleasure.
    • suicide and self-medication.
    • effect of sleep deprivation on pain
    • psychology of pain

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    Intense Pain[edit]

    Pain is an unpleasant feeling often caused by intense or damaging stimuli, such as stubbing a toe, burning a finger, putting alcohol on a cut, and bumping the "funny bone."

    Really? Was this written from the frame of reference of a ten year old? If these are intense or damaging stimuli, how do we classify cancer, or getting a limb shot off? Consider a rewrite please, these are extremely minor pain sensations, not "intense or damaging stimuli", especially since none of the above really causes much in the way of damage. A stubbed toe? THE HORROR... THE HORROR... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.246.210 (talk) 00:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

    Thank you for telling this. Could you suggest a rewrite? I think it would be good to include the whole range of pain, from minor pain to intense pain. Lova Falk talk 09:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
    I agree they are trivial examples. They represent neuropathic pain (the "tingling" pain from bumping the funny bone) and the three main classes of nociceptive pain (mechanical, thermal and chemical). "Intense" refers to the strength of stimulation required to initiate a pain signal - the threshold intensity - rather than the intensity of pain felt above that threshold. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 23:23, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

    Objective measurement[edit]

    The interesting success described at http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1204471 probably deserves a passing mention, in a sentence about how objective measurement is being studied but it not yet available. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:34, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

    Malingering[edit]

    I'd support a mention of feigned pain in malingering, too. But it does need to be done intelligently. This and drug-seeking only exist as problems because of the "objective measurement of pain" problem, mentioned by WAID immediately above. Both need to be handled by an informed editor with a good understanding of WP:NPOV, as there are strong views on all sides. So, possibly a section or subsection on objective measurement could briefly mention malingering and drug-seeking. But I stress again, there is much strongly-held yet uninformed opinion around these two controversial issues, and not just in the lay press, so only the very latest and best sources should be considered.

    Portenoy, who almost single-handedly kicked off the recent popularity of opioids for chronic non-cancer pain, has been back-peddling recently I believe, so his pronouncements earlier than the last couple of years should be treated with that in mind. Thanks for bringing this up. I'll think about it (don't hold your breath), and would welcome anyone beating me to it. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 22:41, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

    Questionable definition of Pain:[edit]

    "Pain is an unpleasant sensory and emotional experience associated with actual or potential tissue damage, or described in terms of such damage."

    I'm not sure that that all pain translates to "actual or potential tissue damage". There are many forms of excessive stimulus or distress or even extreme discomfort often termed Pain" that is not indicative of damage to tissue. --96.35.105.26 (talk) 02:38, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

    That is your opinion, but not that of the IASP. JFW | T@lk 23:59, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
    And is it the only opinion we have to comply with and state in the article? IASP may not be wrong, as there are kind of pain damage to tissue? --109.53.222.210 (talk) 13:20, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
    Well, if you can find another authoritative opinion you are free to suggest it here. The IASP definition is not controversial but you might have misunderstood. Pain doesn't cause tissue damage, but it feels like it. JFW | T@lk 19:11, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
    Furthermore, remember that pain is the brain's subjective interpretation of nervous impulses. Some people/brains may interpret the impulses as "pain" whereas others may not.__DrChrissy (talk) 09:03, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

    Soreness[edit]

    Soreness is a redirect to this article, but this article even not names soreness. --109.53.222.210 (talk) 13:15, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

    There are many synonyms for pain. We can't list them all - this is not a dictionary. JFW | T@lk 19:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)