Talk:Palmyra Atoll

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What is so unique?[edit]

Is this the only island on earth to be controled by a government and owned by a private entity??


No. There are other islands whose entire landmass is, under local property laws, owned by one individual or corporation. Though, perhaps this is somewhat unique b/c it is so far away from other landmasses68.33.203.109 05:54, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Details on trial[edit]

Can we get some details on the trial. Was this overturned on appeal, or dismissed at the trial level because of pretrial publicity.

Moved out the murders and book[edit]

It was originally merged in from a stub article, but And the Sea Will Tell was getting to be a very large section, and as its significance had more to do with a book and Hawaiian media circus than an event in Palmyra's history, I moved it to its own article.

-Nentuaby 01:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Trivia[edit]

The picture of the islands airstrip looks very much like the same airstrip in the beginning of Jurassic Park III. If it is, maybe it could added in someway. Windscar77 07:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I found no reference to this filming having been done in the Palmyra Atoll, though Hawaii was a location for the movie.[1] This same reference lists Wendover, Utah as where an airstrip was filmed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adavidb (talkcontribs) 06:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

I can't provide a citation for this and am not sure if it is significant, but images of Palmyra Island were used in the opening and closing sequences (think theme song) of the television series 'Gilligan's Island' in many episodes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.207.54.89 (talk) 20:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Leased for private development till 2065?[edit]

I've removed the following two sentences, which contradict everything else in the article about Nature Conservancy and USFWS ownership:

"In July 1990, Peter Savio of Honolulu took a lease on the atoll until the year 2065 and formed the Palmyra Development Company.[1] When Savio took over the atoll he appointed Roger Lextrait caretaker of the island, and Lextrait lived there for 8 years.[2]"

The Roger Lextrait link is dead, and the Peter Savio link doesn't seem to even claim, let alone credibly claim, that he controls the atoll. MayerG (talk) 07:39, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Measure[edit]

"Its 9 mi (14 km) of coastline" Coastlines got no length as they are fractals. The length thus depends on the length of your ruler. Area, maximal length and minimal width are well defined and could be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.226.37.213 (talk) 00:12, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Political status[edit]

It is unique in being the only current incorporated territory of the U.S.A. Since it is incorporated, does this mean any child born there is a U.S. citizen by birth? Goustien (talk) 21:43, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Correct according to incorporated territory, which cites a DOI document. (see first sentence of the linked section, "Incorporated and unincorporated territories"). That said, be advised that anyone headed there to bear children will find no medical facilities nor encouragement at the prospect. But Christmas Island is within a couple day's sail if you're lucky. –Newportm (talkcontribs) 05:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Southernmost Point[edit]

Would the Palmyra Atoll contain the southernmost point within the USA proper? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.129.63 (talk) 10:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

No, Palmyra is located in the northern hemisphere at about 5 degrees north latitude. Perhaps you're thinking of Rose Atoll. Rose Atoll's latitude is 14 degrees 30 minutes south, or over 1,000 miles further south than Palmyra, so Rose Atoll would be the southernmost part of the USA. –Newportm (talkcontribs) 19:47, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Pan Am on Palmyra?[edit]

Territories of the United States states without attribution that "Palmyra was formerly (before 1950) a seaplane base used by Pan American Airlines and the U.S. Navy. It had a Pan American hotel that was used for overnight stops by travelers. It was along an air travel route that linked Hawaii with American Samoa, Australia, and other destinations in the south Pacific as non-stop flights were not possible.". If true, this seems at least as relevant to the history of the island as who sold what parcels of land to whom. Can anyone verify/disprove the claim? Cwelgo (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I can't find support that the island of Palmyra was a seaplane base for Pan Am. I have found that a sheltered lagoon of Kingman Reef was used as a stopover (don't know about the hotel). See http://www.qsl.net/krpdxg/krinfo.html. Also, I think that the Territories of the United States section from which you quote is not accurate. From http://www.doi.gov/oia/Islandpages/palmyrapage.htm, "the northernmost atoll in the Line Islands Archipelago halfway between Hawaii and American Samoa is Palmyra Atoll." The Wikipedia page is not supported by the government reference of the Dept of Interior. The Wikipedia page states that Palmyra Atoll "is an archipelago of about 50 small islands with about 1.56 sq mi (4 km2) of land area, lying about 1,000 miles (1,609 km) south of Oahu, Hawaii." It is not Palmyra Atoll that is the archipelago; rather, according to the Dept of Interior, it is the Line Islands Archipelago which Palmyra is part of and what I believe Kingman Reef is part of.Television fan (talk) 23:57, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Though text about this was moved today from the Territories article to this one, I also see no reliable source about Palmyra serving as a Pan Am seaplane base, only Wake Island and Kingman Reef, as the prior entry mentions. Very similar, if not exact, wording is found at wallybarker.com, though with no indication of its original source. Kingman is about 30 nautical miles north of Palmyra, which may have something to do with any confusion, and Palmyra was used by the navy. I'll look some more, though unless a reliable source is found, the short paragraph about this will be removed. —ADavidB 23:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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Global warming and sea rise inundation[edit]

Someone knowledgeable should add a section as to what will happen to Palmyra with the sea rise associated with global warming. Pr4ever (talk) 00:14, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ "Peter Savio". ZoomInfo.com. Zoom Information Inc. Retrieved 2008-01-06. 
  2. ^ "Roger Lextrait: The King of Palmyra Island". 2007-08-29. Retrieved 2008-01-20.