Talk:Papal conclave, 1523

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This page, as originally written, depends entirely on Baumgartner. My own research into the contemporary accounts suggests that his is not a reliable account. I have tried to fix things where I could, and have added some documentation (which refutes what is attributed to Baumgartner, e.g. the notion that Wolsey got 20 votes, and the notion that Enckenvoirt wasn't there), but I don't think I have succeeded in improving the article. It departs from the sources too many times. The whole text, I fear, needs to be junked and a new start made by somebody. The map of the battle does not add anything to the argument.

For a well sourced, and very different, treatment of the Conclave, take a look at

http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1523.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicedomino (talkcontribs) 05:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


Vicedomino (talk) 05:24, 9 August 2009 (UTC)Vicedomino

I don't oppose the addition of more primary or secondary sources, but it is dangerous to throw out sourced secondary content on this basis (see WP:PRIMARY). Please try to note the disagreement in sources rather than nuking one in favor of the other. Savidan 05:28, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
One's original research into thecontemporary accounts is not suited to Wikipedia, which is simply a reader's guide based on published sources. Deleting unbiased statements supported by cited sources because one disagrees with them is probably not the best approach.--Wetman (talk) 05:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)