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- 1 Untitled
- 2 <^>v|This album is connected|v<^>
- 3 Pointless
- 4 Yes, but what's the ALBUM like?
- 5 cover
- 6 There's something wrong with the Rolling Stone link
- 7 The Release & Reception is confused, unclear, and incorrect.
- 8 Original German Vertigo release
- 9 Removal of Robert Christagu REview
- 10 Orphaned references in Paranoid (album)
- 11 Genre
- 12 Charred riffs
- 13 Title and artwork: text/illustration anomaly
What is a "5-star album"?- Tarquin 17:38 Mar 16, 2003 (UTC)
<^>v|This album is connected|v<^>
- All song titles serve as redirects to this album or have been placed at the appropriate disambiguation pages.--Hraefen Talk 17:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Pointless to make individual song-articles as long as the album article itself is this short. --18.104.22.168 10:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but what's the ALBUM like?
This article needs to go into a little more detail about the album's content, rather than just that it had some hits and that the cover is famous/weird. dethtoll 23:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Why was the album cover deleted? dethtoll 16:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The Release & Reception is confused, unclear, and incorrect.
The opening paragraph of this page states that Paranoid's US release was delayed until January of 1971. It then states that in March of 1971, the album broke the Top 10 in the US. Next, it says that the album's chart success in the US allowed the band to tour there for the first time in December 1970.
Asking for clarification, which of the following would be correct?
1. "The band's debut release was successful and led to a US tour in December 1970."
1a. "Paranoid's initial success on the UK charts led to a December 1970 US tour and the subsequent US release of "Paranoid" in January of 1971."
2. Did the band actually do a US tour in December of 1970, or was this a typo that should have read 1971? (ie, "Paranoid's chart success in the US allowed the band to tour there for the first time in December 1971.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 13:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Original German Vertigo release
Does anyone know the full story behind the original (German) Vertigo LP release of Paranoid? If you've ever listened to it, it's obviously a different mix from the US and I believe the UK releases. There is way more bass, some might say too much, in this mix. In particular, the single 'Paranoid' is so overwhelmed with bass guitar & drum as to almost totally swamp the rest of the mix - Ozzy's vocals in particular.
I've heard a number of different explanations for this, one being that the German version was actually the first version pressed, but due to complaints about the excessive bass it was re-mixed prior to the UK & US pressings. Drlegendre (talk) 13:52, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Removal of Robert Christagu REview
It's a well known fact that Robert Christagu despises Heavy Metal so I think we should remove his review. It's entirely not objective. He obviously wouldn't give it an impartial review if he dislikes the genre.What We Have Here Is A Failure To Communicate 23:18, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well, all of the reviews of the early Sabbath albums written when they were released were generally negative. It would be disingenuous to remove them in my opinion. J04n(talk page) 00:53, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- It is true that Robert Christgau is clueless about Heavy Metal genre. I agree that his opinion on such an album is irrelevant. Astator (talk) 22:08, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't personally agree with Christgau's assessment of the album, but we are required to note minority opinions if at all possible. While his opinion was the popular one at the time of the album's release, the album is now almost universally regarded as a classic; his opinion would now be regarded as the minority, so we are obligated to keep it. The fact that Christgau's review is negative is precisely why it should remain. ChakaKongLet's talk about it 01:15, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Paranoid (album)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Paranoid (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "AMG Biography":
- From The Devil You Know (Heaven & Hell album): Monger, James Christopher. "AMG Biography". Allmusic. Retrieved 2009-03-08.
- From Ozzy Osbourne: Ruhlmann, William. "AMG Biography". Allmusic. Retrieved 14 February 2008.
- From Black Sabbath (album): Ruhlmann, William, AMG Biography, Allmusic, retrieved 2008-02-14
- From Warner Bros. Records: Ruhlmann, William. "AMG Biography". Allmusic. Retrieved 2008-02-14.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:45, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Here's a link to a source for adding hard rock to the genre, which in my opinion the first 6 sabbath albums are also kind of hard rock. I'm trying to find sources for the next four (currently waiting input on the link for their debut). http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/readers-poll-the-10-best-metal-hard-rock-albums-of-the-1970s-20130828/3-black-sabbath-paranoid-0351448 126.96.36.199 (talk) 02:42, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
From section 1, Recording: "According to Alexander, "Paranoid" "crystallized the band's writing process, with Iommi initiating the ideas with his charred riffs,". Can anyone explain what a charred riff is? I would assume this is a typo, but I can't guess what word it's a typo of. Robocon1 (talk) 16:00, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Title and artwork: text/illustration anomaly
This section refers to the original LP title being Warpigs, the original artwork for that title still being used after the title was changed, and that the cover shows a man dressed as a pig waving a sword. But the illustration of the cover, which is definitely the cover used when Paranoid was released in the UK, shows a blurred photo of a man in a motorbike crash helmet with a plastic shield and some kind of sabre wearing a kind of baggy version of a comic book superhero tights & Y fronts outfit with a sash over one shoulder. He has a beard, but he looks nothing like a pig. Was the cover the text talks about used initially and then replaced? Shouldn't there be some mention of the cover in the illustration, which was certainly used on LPs sold in the UK? Robocon1 (talk) 10:23, 9 September 2014 (UTC)