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Add pictures and why got old pictures removed from the info box?[edit]

Why got pictures from Kabir Stori removed in this article from the info box? He was a very famous poet and Pashtun Leader - and when we are talking about the info box .. a pashto singer is missing, Afzal Khan Lala (Pashtun Leader, former pakistani provincial), a pashtun sportsmen is although missing..

Thank you, very much. --Pakhtun1103 (talk) 18:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

You cannot add images in infobox of this article of someone you find important when in fact that person is not prominent. There are rules and regulations on how to select suitable images for the infobox. These days almost everyone claims to be a poet and a leader.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 13:46, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

He although got a school renamed after him, he was a prominent for the Pashtuns.. --Pohyal98 (talk) 16:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

This article is not made for Pashtun people, it is made for all English readers around the world. Your argument is unpersuasive. There are 50 million or so Pashtuns in this world and this Kabir Stori is not that important to display his image in the infobox of this article. Ask others and they'll agree with me.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 18:12, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Under representation of Pakistani Pashtuns in Famous Pashtuns[edit]

Many Pashtuns from Pakistan greater in stature than Karzai have not been represented eg. Khushal Khan Khattak, Pareshan Khattak, Rehman Baba, Ayub Khan, Ghulam Ishaq Khan etc.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.27.230.123 (talk) 10:44, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

But Hamid Karzai is very well known by everyone in Pakistan, Afghanistan and the rest of the world. For example, anywhere you go in the world and ask a common person on the street who Hamid Karzai is and they will likely say President of Afghanistan. If you do the same for the guys you listed, they will scratch heads and say I don't know. The guys you listed are popular figures only in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa area. Even neighboring people (i.e. Punjabis, Sindhis, Baloch and much of Afghans) have no idea who they are.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 21:29, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

but bro, everybody know who was ayub khan, who was younis khan and jansher khan squash champion,,, no body apart from some afghans know who is zalmay khalid or people like him who are in pictures. we need to be impartial but this article seems to belong to afghans not to pashtuns,Rahman baba is known by everyone, hamza shinwari famous poet, ghulam ishaq khan president of pakistan, it seems u can include people like tarzi and zalmay who not even afghan know who they were but u cant include hamza shinwari, and his likes.

What do you mean by "everybody"? Ayub Khan was a non-Pashto-speaking Awan (Hindko-speaking). His son claims he and his father do not belong to the Pashtun group. You seem to be biased toward Afghans. Zalmay Khalilzad (without any dispute) belongs to the Pashtun group, he is a globally recognized person who became the first Muslim and first person from the Afghanistan region to become US ambassador. You have a very weird way of thinking. This article does not belong to Pashtuns, Afghans, Pakistanis or anyone else, we follow basic Wikipedia rules in choosing which image is put in the image box and which to remove. It is irrelevant who Afghans know and don't know. The people you named do not have free images.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 12:48, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

The thing is i mean you. Because you are an Afghan nationalist who does nothing but edit articles according to his own mind. I have cited ayub khan as belonging to tareen tribe of pashtuns and is much more famous than saif ali khan or likes like him. Also younis khan is world class cricket player while you have added muhammad nabi who is just a rookie cricketer. Better be impartial as this will escalate further as what you are showing is that you are correct. in the history of edits it is clearly seen that many people before me have pointed out that we need to add more pakistani pashtuns and pakistani pashtuns are more famous then afghans but seems like thsi article is being controlled by you alone and you wont let anybody add anything in it. Saladin1987 00:45, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

okay bro. Ayub khan is already there and as for younis khan remove him and add the cosmonaut abdul ahad mohmand. i think theres enough kings and presidents and it should diversify the gallery. Saadkhan12345 (talk) 08:03, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2014[edit]

Dear Admins, I've counted the Pashtun population in Bangladesh and it is over 400,000. I would really like to see my country's name there. Also many Pashtuns back in 1600-1700's migrated to Eastern Bangladesh with their family because of war and stuff. My whole family and my Paternal Grandma's Great-Great-Great-Great Grandpa stayed in Brahmanbaria,Bangladesh because he was a warrior and had to hide. His name was Ali Akbar Mirza Khan. He was from Northern Pakistan and he married a Kashmiri. Thanks Pal, Cheers.

Pashtun Pride from Bangladesh

Realpashtunbhai (talk) 22:42, 30 November 2014 (UTC) Thanks I hope you put Bangladesh's population number too.

If you can provide a published reliable source for the number, we can add it. We don't base article content on contributors' own research. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:56, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 23:15, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

No toleration of under representation of Pakistani Pashtuns[edit]

Pakistani pashtuns have been greatly underrepresented in this article, it seems its only related to Afghan pashtuns, people like zalmay khalid and other non famous afghan pashtuns have been added but people like hamza baba, rahman baba, ghulam ishaq khan, younis khan , jansher khan etc have been deliberately ignored. instead non pashtuns like shahrukh and salman and even salim khan have been placed, dilip kumar being a hindkowan has been added, but any more partiality will be dealt in the form of reporting. ThanxSaladin1987 00:58, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I very much doubt that trying to report people for not adding content to an article would get very far. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:10, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanx for the prompt response. Its just this guy has been dealing with this article in a very prejudiced manner, this article is ethnic based article and it should keep the names and images of those who are factually proved as pashtuns via family line or blood line and have been cited. He has added the images of those people who merely claim to be pashtuns and are neither nationaly no linguistically pashtun. if you look at the history of the edits of this article you will clearly see many pakistani pashtuns showing their concern regarding their under representation while pakistani pashtuns have got the most population amongst pashtuns. to my surprize is that even indian pathans are more in number than pakistan pure pashto speaking ethnically pashtun people. Krzyhorse22 (talk · contribs) is pointing out at my blocks, but he fails to understand that those blocks are not recent and were long time ago. My request is that this article should be ethnically related so people like saif ali khan, shahrukh khan, zareen khan who merely have their memories as their proof of being pashtun shouldnt be added to this article. If they are added then pure pashtuns like Ayub khan, Younis khan should be here too. in the history of edits it is clearly seen that many people before me have pointed out that we need to add more pakistani pashtuns and pakistani pashtuns are more famous then afghans but seems like thsi article is being controlled by you alone and you wont let anybody add anything in it. Saladin1987 00:51, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

AndyTheGrump, just want to tell you that this Saladin1987 (talk · contribs) is not here to improve articles but rather is vandalizing and destroying them. He is a Pakistani nationalist who is on a crusade removing references to Afghan and Afghanistan from articles of famous people. [1] [2] [3] This is very disruptive, he has been blocked several times. [4] The last time for a month, and he's still doing it.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 12:52, 22 December 2014 (UTC)