Talk:Pashtun people

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2014[edit]

please remove opening text in second paragraph "Both the Pashtun people and the Pashtun language are considered to be Eastern Iranian."

because the information is uncited and it is not true. It is not backed by any source. Pashtuns are ethnic Afghans, not Iranians. The Pashto language is a combination of ancient Greek and Dari (the language of the Afghan Sassanid royal court).

174.65.84.61 (talk) 00:44, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done for now: This sentence in the lede is repeated and sourced later in the article under "Pashtuns defined". It is sourced to the Encylopedia Britannica which is certainly sufficiently reliable of a source. However, I do not have access to that article and am unable to verify this personally. So, while I am declining this request at this time, if someone else has access to the article and the source turns out to not back up the statement, I will be happy to change accordingly. Cannolis (talk) 01:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

The following citing/reference is FALSIFIED: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtun_people#cite_note-Brit-Pashtun-21)

it makes NO MENTION of Afghans being "iranian". It says they are "Aryans" and should be linked to the wikipedia page for "Aryans". It also mentions the other theory that they descend from King Saul of Israel. So this citing and claim of Afghans being "iranian" is 100% inaccurate and most likely the personal opinion of the wiki editor: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtun_people#cite_note-Brit-Pashtun-21)

Please change.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I hear two things: A. The statement "Pashtun language are considered to be Eastern Iranian" is wrong. It does however seem from Pashto language to be the way the language is classified. B. The statement " Pashtun people ... are considered to be Eastern Iranian" is wrong. As we see from section /Pashtuns defined/ "Among historians, anthropologists, and the Pashtuns themselves, there is some debate as to who exactly qualifies as a Pashtun." and we get 3 prominet views. Can we get a reliable source quote on Aryans? Sam Sailor Sing 10:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Done Sorry folks, but the sentence was added recently with the source being a copy of this article. That was removed and the EB added, but I've read the EB article (through my library) and it doesn't mention any of this, But a major reason to remove it is that the relevant material is already in the lead. The lead calls them an Iranian ethnic group, it says their language is Pashto, and that their origin is unclear. Whether the first paragraph of the lead should be changed would be another issue, but the sentence in question doesn't belong there. Dougweller (talk) 13:28, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Recent POV in the lead section[edit]

Pashtuns are specifically an Iranian-speaking ethnic groups and they belong to Iranian peoples (Iranic) ethno-linguistic group. Iranian does not mean they are from Iran, it's an ethno-linguistic group and classification similar to Germanic peoples. I saw some users requested to remove "Iranian" term and finally an user removed that term with this ridiculous edit summary (his personal analysis and POV). That edit summary shows the involved user isn't familiar with this topic. I'll restore removed content. --Zyma (talk) 21:24, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

The same user also removed other statements from the lede of the article. I restored most of that content as well. Khestwol (talk) 08:58, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Another user (Nasirakram1440) is removing and changing content seemingly along the same pattern as the other user before them. I reverted their edits also. Khestwol (talk) 17:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Khestwol, you're right, I saw them too. I'll watch this article and I'll report to admins or request a RPP if necessary. It's better for those users and IPs to click on Iranian peoples, Iranian languages, and Pashto language. Read them before making further nonsense edits with laughable edit summaries. And if those users are fans of "Aryan" word, I should say: Iranian/Iranic is a same thing (study its etymology). --Zyma (talk) 18:21, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2014[edit]

Please include "Mardan" district (Pakistan)in the metropolitan centres of Pashtuns. Hunain003 (talk) 14:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:57, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2014[edit]

The infobox is screwed up, I would like permission to edit it or would like someone else to fix the problem. 61.8.223.130 (talk) 09:55, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - someone had deleted the closing double bracket - Arjayay (talk) 10:18, 3 July 2014 (UTC)