|This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Pastor article.|
|WikiProject Christianity||(Rated Start-class, Low-importance)|
|To-do list for Pastor:|
|Priority 1 (top)|
If we want this page to turn into something other than a stub, we are going to need to let people develop this page. Merely deleting new revisions in order to revert back to a "stub" will never permit this page to become reflective of the reality of the life of a pastor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) 05:04, February 9, 2005
I do not think that this page is a stub. Maybe there is more that COULD be said, but that doesn't mean it needs to be listed as a stub. It provides basic encyclopedic information about Pastors. I am removing the stub designation. TrogdorPolitiks 19:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm... This isn't biased or NPOV or anything:
Shaping the way people view both the "pastorate" and the "laity", begins with shaping the way people see a biblical foundation for the work of the pastor. Therefore, clearly making a distinction between the formal work of the pastor and the role of pastoral work is an important delineation. Simply completing a prescribed course of study in a religious educational institution does not produce a pastor. It will produce a potential member of the clergy, however the pastoral life exceeds the work of leading worship or other ministerial responsibilities. The underlying life of the minister is what the Apostle Paul presents in the text above and the associate internal commitment to the fundamental values of personal sojourn, prayer, proclamation and interaction with others.
Emerymat 05:31, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think I have removed any issues with the article. --Basar 01:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
New Testament usage
I have added several paragraphs about New Testament use of the word "pastor" and its relationship to "elders" and "bishops". I have also added a paragraph re: the origin of modern Protestant usage of the term. I have added a couple of citations, but I believe more citations are needed. I have also attempted (diligently) to keep these sections NPOV; please edit away. --BucInExile 04:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Deletion review for Melissa Scott (pastor)
I am a pastor in a Reformed denomination and we do not reject the title pastor based on the 'priesthood of all believers'. Perhaps some very conservative ends do and I know that for Lutherans some of what is done only by ordained persons can be done by all believers, but even so they often use the term pastor. Linking pastor into its root as a shepherd, this concept is not rejected by prostestants. This section needs correction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnduns (talk • contribs) 21:40, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Roman Catholic Pastor
For your information, the word pastor is used by Indonesian people for Roman Catholic priest. More often they use the word "pastur". Protestants & other Christians uses priest ("pendeta" in Indonesia) for their religious leader. These can be misleading, if local media translate news (in English) about pastor (Protestant) to Indonesian. Ario_ManUtd 09:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC) --Ario ManUtd (talk) 02:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- The text reads, "Every Roman Catholic parish is entrusted to the care of a single pastor, who must be a priest according to the 1983 Code of Canon Law." I'm not sure how the following pertains to this article or even this sentence but there are parishes in North America that have no priests. The parish has been entrusted to an "administrator" who functions as best they can, hires retired priests to say mass, etc. In one notable case in a rural area, the administrator was a woman! Having said that, the bishop still owns the property and can hire or fire either lay administrator or priest/pastor.
- Okay, the sentence quoted is just too dogmatic. It obviously isn't always that way. Should be toned down a little, but I don't want to leave more questions by "toning it down!" "Most parishes..." is almost worse for this article!Student7 (talk) 13:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Is there any reason why this article has the Lutheran portal linked at the bottom? It seems that this is an extremely broad topic, and the portal box is extremely narrow. Is there any argument for keeping it? Am I missing something?126.96.36.199 (talk) 20:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
"Leaving the Ordained Ministry"?
This section seems really out of place. It almost reads like an advocacy piece. I intend to delete it in the upcoming days if there are no objections.IrishStephen (talk) 22:05, 20 September 2013 (UTC) I agree. Jumped over here to the Talk page for just that reason. Couldn't make sense of it and it seemed rather jarring and out of place. It also has "weasel words"; "Observers... suggest...". FWIW, I vote to remove it Wdwrx (talk) 03:43, 28 November 2013 (UTC)