Talk:Pat Cadigan

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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. --KenWalker | Talk 05:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


the article was nominated for deletion by mistake: see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pat Cadigan. Mikkalai 23:45, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

this article doesn't mention pat cadigan's short story "angel" that apeared in the 1987 may issue of Isaac asimov's science fiction magazine

Bibliography[edit]

I've more or less finished editing this entry to resemble a true bibliography, as I've done previously to the entries of Brian Stableford, Fred Saberhagen, Nancy Kress & Charles Sheffield. The Deadpan Allie series remains a mystery, though: is the novel Mindplayers a fix-up of the stories, a sequel, what? For that matter, I'm sure there are other stories out there; I'll add them as I find them. Tom Dean (talk) 19:37, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Update: A few days ago, I received a memo in My Talk about my posting of a Bibliography in the entry of Nancy Kress. Apparently, some consider the entry to be "gigantic" and too daunting to a "casual" Wikipedia user , whatever that is. Consequently, I will be spending the next week or so creating collapsible tables for the entries that I have edited at Wikipedia, including Cadigan's here. Tom Dean (talk) 15:32, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Deadpan Allie[edit]

I finally managed to locate a copy of Mindplayers (my personal copy is buried in storage somewhere), and it is indeed a fix-up; thus, the entry is updated this date. Now, if I could only find a copy of "A Lie for a Lie," which I'm pretty sure is the last of the Deadpan Allie stories... Tom Dean (talk) 19:15, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Today, I purchased an ebook copy of Ellen Datlow's anthology, Wild Justice, which first saw life in 1996 as Lethal Kisses. After reading Pat Cadigan's novelette "A Lie for a Lie," I'm convinced it's a Deadpan Allie story, although the protagonist's name never seems to be mentioned. A sentence near the end gives it away: "But I don't lie, even by omission, and this would mean I had to." Tom Dean (talk) 17:18, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Yesterday, I finished reading the whole schmeer: Mindplayers, "Dirty Work," & "A Lie for A Lie." Quite a saga, although I was more than a little disappointed in Mindplayers; most of the interstitial material around the sections titled "Nearly Departed," "Variation on a Man," & "Lunatic Bridge" involve the character Jerry Wirerammer, whose exploits with Allie I found to be as dull as dishwater. I can see why "A Lie for a Lie" has rarely if ever been listed as a Deadpan Allie story: although she is, as usual, the narrator, her name never comes up, nor that of her former boss/company, associates, etc. However, she mentions the "aphasia traslator" that has been installed in her eye, and she is frequently inhibited by an inability to speak. Deadpan Allie suffered permanent aphasia and speechlessness as a result of the mindcrime at the end of "Dirty Work." If there are any additional Deadpan Allie stories out there, I'm not aware of them. Tom Dean (talk) 15:47, 30 May 2012 (UTC)