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[edit] Advertising?
Is it really appropriate to advertise a firm of [redacted per WP:BLP] solicitors in the body of the article, and link to their website? Irvine22 (talk) 14:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have amended your highly inappropriate comment. Do not violate WP:BLP again. 2 lines of K303 15:00, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- You shouldn't amend the comments of other editors. Do you have an opinion on whether Wikipedia should advertise a particular firm of solicitors? Irvine22 (talk) 15:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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- You're right BigDunc. I'll ignore him. Irvine22 (talk) 15:08, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Terms of that sort are highly inappropriate and a violation of WP:BLP. It is appropriate to redact comments in such cases. Now, cease and desist. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- If it's inappropriate, why are you using it? (Still, I suppose it makes it pretty clear exactly what you redacted above. So - suits me.) Irvine22 (talk) 15:45, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- You make it more and more clear that your intention here is disruption. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:47, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- My intention here is to query whether Wikipedia should be advertising a particular and non-notable firm of solicitors. Irvine22 (talk) 16:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Again, you are quite right, BigDunc. We shouldn't allow their trolly wiles to divert the discussion about whether the article should be advertising a firm of solicitors. Irvine22 (talk) 16:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- There was no need for Irvine to make the comment, but it's not that big a deal. So could everyone stop making it one? This is embarrassing. The website seems to be crashing my crappy work browser. Is there anything in it that adds to the subject, that isn't already covered (or could be covered) in the article? That's the gist of WP:EL, isn't it? Stu ’Bout ye! 17:00, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- No, nothing that adds to the subject, as far as I can see. The website itself is pretty amateurish. Irvine22 (talk) 02:26, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Does anyone want to point out what the link adds to the article? Stu ’Bout ye! 09:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I don't believe it's unreasonable to include a link to the firm he founded, especially as the article on the firm has been redirected (note, not deleted) to this article. 2 lines of K303 14:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- The firm's webpage seems to be about selling their services, which is contrary to WP:ELYES. Irvine22 (talk) 02:10, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Alright. I have redirected the link to the section that actually archives material relating Finucane himself and his death. [1] I hope this is a reasonable compromise, as it is clearly relevant to this article, while it gets around the potential advertising/solicitation on the main page. While I was at it, I removed two other links that clearly do not merit inclusion per WP:EL. Rockpocket 02:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, that's fine by me. The Pat Finucance Centre is an acceptable link. The firm of [redacted per WP:BLP] solicitors is not. Irvine22 (talk) 06:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] New discussion
Ive been advised that adding a comment that Pat Finucane was acting on behalf of 23 men accused of involvement in the murder of two soldiers the summer prior to his death. I referenced the article I cannot see how stating this is wrong ? comments please Builderbob38 (talk) 22:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- It does not belong in the introduction to the article. Pat representing Pat McGeown during that case is already covered in the main body of the article. O Fenian (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I have requested verification that Patrick Finucane was involved in "human rights" cases as opposed to defending members of the IRA the source currently listed is not working. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Builderbob38 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Police investigation
The article needs to contain information regarding the RUC investigation into his murder. Such as which RUC regional command handled it, who headed the CID team, etc.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:50, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I have since added the relevant info with source.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:32, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
[edit] 'Killed'
The consensus on the Lord Mountbatten article was that he was 'assassinated', not 'murdered' or indeed 'killed'. In the interests of balance the word should be altered here too as Finucanes death was part of the same war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.172.179 (talk) 08:05, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
