Talk:Patrick Bouvier Kennedy

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Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion Apr 24 to Apr 30 2004, consensus was to keep. Discussion:

Delete. This page cannot be expanded because all it talks about is the biography of someone who died in infancy. It never will be able to go past a stub. 21:54, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • Keep, certainly. You want to delete valid information on a famous person just because he died in infancy? It already is more than a stub by most people's standards, anyway. Everyking 23:04, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. It's more than a stub. Information is valid and encyclopedic. It could equally well be part of the article on John F. Kennedy or an article in itself, and at this point it seems to me to be too big to fit comfortably into John F. Kennedy. He would not be encyclopedic were his father not John F. Kennedy, but his father was John F. Kennedy. Dpbsmith 00:23, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Even in Australia, this poor little guy held the front page for two days. That's pretty famous IMO. While you can be encyclopedic without being famous, I think that if you're that famous, you're ipso facto encyclopedic. And as has been said, it's far more than a stub already. Andrewa 01:29, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep - obviously encyclopedic. →Raul654 01:57, Apr 25, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. jengod 00:26, Apr 26, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, encyclopedic. Average Earthman 11:38, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Historically significant and encyclopedic. - Lucky 6.9 16:33, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Anyone's who's definitely famous automatically qualifies for a Wikipedia article. Wiwaxia 04:25, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Just because he died doesn't mean there isn't more information about him than just the facts of his short life...what about a cultural history of Patrick, how his famous parents reacted to his death, how (if) the nation did...etc. 07:08, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep for the same reason 9/11 victims and Walt Disney's grandmother should be kept.

anthony (see warning)

  • Keep. There is no valid reason to delete this, and the page is good enough. Falcon 01:06, Apr 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. There is no valid reason for an article on a baby who lived only a few days. There are no other instances of such articles. His birth and death did not affect history or national politics. It is not as though he was heir to a monarchy and his death resulted in a change in succession! (talk) 21:50, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

End discussion

Who is Arabella?[edit]

Article speaks of a stillborn sister, Arabella, that was buried with JFK and Patrick in Arlington in Dec. 6, 1963, and the list places her after Patrick. So does this mean that JFK and Jackie were expecting another child at the time of JFK's assassination? Is it factual and is it in correct chronological order?

The stillbirth in question occurred on 23 August 1956. According to her biographers, Jacqueline Kennedy was pregnant five times. Her first pregnancy resulted in an early miscarriage in 1955; her second was the girl who was to be named Arabella, stillborn on 23 August 1956; followed by Caroline (1957), John (1960), and Patrick (1963). - Nunh-huh 06:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Named After[edit]

I'm wondering about the accuracy of the statement that Edward Kennedy named his son Patrick after JFK's and Jackie's infant son. Patrick Kennedy was Edward Kennedy's grandfather - perhaps that's who he named his son after? Especially considering that "Joseph" was also the middle name of the grandfather and does not match the middle name "Bouvier" (talk) 20:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Smoking, birth[edit]

Does anyone know if Jacqueline Kennedy's cigarette smoking would have caused the respiratory problem? And/or does anyone know why the C-section was done so early? Did Jackie go into labor early or was there something else? jengod (talk) 03:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

This is an article?[edit]

Per Talk:Malia Obama, Wikipedia doesn't have an article about a 12-year-old daughter of the current head of state of the United States, yet it has an article about Kennedy's son who lived for two days about five decades ago. The only things that can be said about him is how he was born and how he died. Everything else is really about his parents. This "article" should be turned into a redirect. Otherwise, we could just as well have an article about his stilborn sister - the amount of information would be the same. The Spy Who Came in from the Cold (talk) 19:11, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Discussion of this subject is taking place at Talk:Family of Barack Obama#Patrick Bouvier Kennedy vs. Malia Obama.

Succession box[edit]

I agree with whoever removed the "Kennedy children succession box", so I also removed it from the John F. Kennedy Jr. article. It was not in the Caroline Kennedy article anyway, but even if it was, three people does not seem like enough to have a "succession box", two definitely is not enough, and by the time I removed it from the John Jr. article, there was only one. Neutron (talk) 21:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Surely being born 5 and a half weeks early makes him premature, not his weight! (talk) 21:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)