Talk:Paul Byrd

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"It is widely regarded as the best performance by a professional athlete in the history of sports."[edit]

I feel this is quite unwarranted! Paraphrasing MLB, 'He kept getting into trouble, although he got out of it each time.' Clearly more of a 'gutsy just-enough' result than the best sports performance anywhere ever!

I also find it amusing that this article is 'Low Priority' in light of his performance. TaoPhoenix 08:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

The unwarranted remark was subsequently removed by another user. TaoPhoenix (talk) 06:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

"A lefty in a right hander's body" quote[edit]

Without a little more context, I don't think this quote adds anything to the article. I haven't read the Yahoo article, but I'm guessing that this is a reference to baseball folklore that left-handers tend to be a little eccentric. Without any context, the quote just kind of comes out of nowhere and I think its meaning will be lost on most readers. I'm inclined to remove it unless someone wants to expand upon it. --Sanfranman59 05:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I just read the article and I really don't think it's notable enough to put in an encyclopedic article. --Sanfranman59 06:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that articles about notable individuals should give some information about the character of the person, not just their statistics, etc. There are many colorful ballplayers and interesting quotes, and that's part of what makes it fun to be a fan. This quote at least says something about the person, rather than the totally random physical resemblance to some other celebrity. Matchups 16:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
At least the physical resemblance comment explains how he got his nickname. I just don't think that the "lefty" quote will be understood by a lot of readers standing on its own. I would also put this quote in the "Frazier" paragraph since it really doesn't relate to the Indians acquiring him in December 2005. How about something like this for that paragraph:
"Teammates gave Byrd the nickname "Frasier" because of his resemblance to actor Kelsey Grammer, who played the title-character in the television series. Known for his eccentric personality, the Indians' clubhouse manager, Tony Amato, describes Byrd as "a lefty in a right-hander's body"." --Sanfranman59 18:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
In principle, this is fine. However, the second sentence has a grammatical problem with the referent to "his"--we know that Byrd has the eccentric personality, but it sounds as though Amato does. I'm on vacation & can't rewrite it (well) now. Also, I like your improvement to the "Frasier" sentence, but "title character" shouldn't have a hyphen; regarding a wikilink for that term, I could see it either way. Matchups 02:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
You're absolutely correct. I must have been half asleep when I composed that sentence. How about this:
"Teammates gave Byrd the nickname "Frasier" because of his resemblance to actor Kelsey Grammer, who played the title character in the television series. Known for his eccentric personality, Byrd has been described as "a lefty in a right-hander's body" by the Indians' clubhouse manager, Tony Amato."
This edit makes it a passive sentence, but I think that's probably okay in this instance. Sanfranman59 03:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)