Talk:Paul Crowther

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Vandalism of Paul Crowther (philosopher) by Noq, etc.[edit]

I am growing seriously fed up with the repeated tagging of this article for deletion by user Noq who is acting in a very uncivil fashion. Would the user concerned stop keep removing references and categories or I'll have to report this to an established editor. It is very difficult to put together an entry when users behave in this uncivil fashion. The user concerned keeps reverting edits and leaving the same typos which is very, very annoying and shows a serious lack of respect.LarkinToad2010 (talk) 19:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

A look at the edit history of the article will show that statement to be untrue. I reverted one edit where you removed an afd tag - other editors did the same when you ignored the warnings. As for civility, were did I behave uncivilly? You have ranted about edits I have made and called them uncivil purely because you disagreed with them. noq (talk) 19:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Does Paul still work at the university? He isn't on the university email system at present? Freedomflag (talk) 13:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Which university? He's got an e-mail address at Galway but does he ever read his e-mails?LarkinToad2010 (talk) 21:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

It's a keep[edit]

Enough said. Why not tag some of the rubbishy articles which are barely one line in future? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LarkinToad2010 (talkcontribs) 13:19, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Bibliographical data[edit]

It's easy to see that somebody out there does not like Paul Crowther; I will not be guessing why, at least for the moment. For an obscure academic a list of publications is usually more objective and informative than a half baked notice. And the difference between publishing 10 books in twenty years or just 3 is also very telling. The first attempt to complete the list of "notable" works was undone with the unconvincing argument 'no need to be exhaustive'; the second time it is called 'your selection'. OK, to the best of my abilities I am trying to provide more data and if something is missed, please do add it. Wikipedia is a work in perpetual progress and suppressing valuable data with unsound arguments is contrary to its spirit, imho.Ael 2 (talk) 18:49, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

  • First of all, please assume good faith here, there is no reason to believe that "someone does not like Crowther". Second, please familiarize yourself with WP:NOTADIRECTORY. An encyclopedia is not supposed to give exhaustive listings in a bio of all works by the subject. If you feel that some of Crowther's books are more notable than those currently listed, please tell us why. --Crusio (talk) 18:59, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
    • I've edited the Selected Bibliography of Crowther's works, since to list everything seems against Wikipedia policy and seems to smack of vanity. Like user Crusio said above - An encyclopedia is not supposed to give exhaustive listings in a bio of all works by the subject. Regirabbit (talk) 10:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
      • I've edited the list of Crowther's books, again - see what I wrote above - leaving in those books which have references. To list all the books - including a recent one which AFAIK hasn't as yet any public peers reviews - just seems to smack of vanity. Regirabbit (talk) 21:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism again[edit]

I had carefully added references to the biographical detail which have been undone by a vandal. Would the vandal kindly restore them or keep off this page?LarkinToad2010 (talk) 12:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

  • I removed unsourced material. When it was restored but this time with a source, I left it in. How is that vandalism? There is an unsourced claim in the article that he published 8 books. You need a WP:RS for that, that says exactly that. You cannot just trawl the web and, if you come up with 8 books, say this, because that violates WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. Other policies that you should read are WP:AGF and WP:NPA. If you have issues with my editing, discuss them here or go to WP:ANI if you like. Thanks. --Crusio (talk) 12:52, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Content and analysis must be appropriately sourced to third parties and not your interpretation of the original work. see WP:OR. Active Banana ( bananaphone 23:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Academic work[edit]

I've substantially edited this section, deleting what seemed to be a vanity précis, without references. Crowther is, after all, an obscure philosopher, and his work does not seem to merit such an extensive blurb, especially given the lack of any major reputable work about his philosophical contributions. Regirabbit (talk) 20:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Astrophysicist[edit]

Not to be confused with astrophysicist Paul Crowther, currently at the University of Sheffield. -- Trevj (talk) 10:25, 9 January 2012 (UTC)