Talk:Paul Kenneth Keller

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Number of fires[edit]

There appears to be some disagreement over the number of fires set. Discussion about this issue is being held on User talk:ScrewYouToo, but it also should probably be discussed here, too. A point to remember: all facts should include verifiable sources, and it is necessary to cite the sources in the article, or, at least, in the "References" section at the bottom of the page. A source cited only in the edit summary is not really cited. --Ericdn (talk) 11:41, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Since it appears the only source for the lower number of fires is a Geocities page, I'm going to err on the side of caution and revert to the higher fire number. If anyone can provide verifiable information to warrant a different number, they are very welcome to do so, so long as they provide an appropriate source to back up their edit. --Ericdn (talk) 12:19, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to The Anome for finally settling this matter! --Ericdn (talk) 13:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Geocities page as source[edit]

The reference linked to a Geocities page has been automatically removed by a bot. The reason - Geocities pages are generally not considered to be an appropriate source. Anyone can write anything on a Geocities page. Just because it's written on the internet does not mean it's based in fact or truth. Therefore, another source is necessary in order to support an edit. If the Geocities page links to an actual news source, however, then you can use that actual news source as a reference, assuming you've checked it and can verify that the source actually does exist. --Ericdn (talk) 12:10, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Convicted of setting 32, admitted to 44 more[edit]

I think I can see where the difference arose. According to http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/1994/Mar/11/keller-sentenced-to-99-years-for-fire-deaths/ , Keller was convicted of setting 32 fires, and admitted to setting 44 more: which explains both figures: convicted of setting 32 fires, which, combined with the extra 44 fires admitted to, makes 76 fires in total. I've updated the article accordingly, citing the reference given above.

However, regardless of the merits of the argument, "ScrewYouToo" is not an acceptable username, and that account has now been blocked for that reason. -- The Anome (talk) 13:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)