Talk:Peder Severin Krøyer

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Norwegian[edit]

I have reverted this that claimed the parents of Krøyer were Danish. As far is I can see from Googling, Ellen Cecilie Gjesdal was Norwegian, daughter of ship carpenter in Stavanger Per Person Gjesdal and Sidsel (born Pedersdatter). The father, however, seems to be unknown, although there has been several guesses. See here and here (in Norwegian and Danish). His foster parents were the sister of Ellen Cecilie, Bertha Cecilie (born 1817) and the Danish ichtyologist Henrik Nikolai Krøyer. --Saddhiyama (talk) 09:24, 23 July 2010 (UT

File[edit]

Weird enough the new picture has more pixels but it looks bleached somehow. Can anyone fix a picture with a lot of pixels, looking more like A? Hafspajen (talk) 20:09, 19 June 2014 (UTC) [1] [2] [3] Some sources. Hafspajen (talk) 21:40, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

@Nardog: It probably is [ˈkʰʁɔˀi̯ɐ], though the Forvo recording sounds more like [ˈkʰʁɒˀi̯ɐ] to me, with a back open-mid vowel. I don't hear the centralization that (to me at least) is crucial to distinguish [ɔ(ː)] from the other mid back vowels in Danish and the vowel is fairly open, around open-mid. I think I'm gonna change the IPA to [ˈkʰʁɒˀi̯ɐ]. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 08:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I listened to that recording a few more times, it's definitely [ˈkʰʁɒi̯ˀɐ], with a stoed-bearing diphthong as in høj. There are no other fronting diphthongs that begin with a back vowel, save for [ui̯] (but that's marginal, I think). Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 09:51, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kbb2: I actually based my transcription on this little dictionary, which had ⟨ˈkrɔjʼɔ⟩, in addition to Forvo. It is apparently based on Den store danske udtaleordbog (1991). The former itself uses its own "modified Dania", and is also partly based on Hansen's Udtaleordbog (1990; WorldCat tells me it was revised in 2007). You may want to get your hands on these dictionaries if you haven't (and I'd particularly appreciate if you could add their schemes to the comparison table).

While I'm at it, I'm struck by the lack of footnotes in the main table of our IPA/Danish guide. I think editors could use ones explaining the kinds of corrections you've been making (position of stød, where it can and cannot occur, vowel length in unstressed positions...). Nardog (talk) 16:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nardog: Yeah, their transcription matches my [ˈkʰʁɒi̯ˀɐ]. Many thanks for that dictionary by the way.

I'll see what I can do. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 21:02, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Biography[edit]

We need to add a biography. Please, we need to! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2806:10AE:F:76A4:9109:C565:13AF:507F (talk) 17:40, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]