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Political Use of the Expression
- It has typically been used by political members of the political right wing to castigate towns for policies they deem beyond the pale or "un-American", by casting their ideological opponents as communists.
I lived in Boston for a long time, surrounded almost exclusively by liberals and socialists. It was from them I heard the term "People's Republic of Cambridge", in a light-hearted jocular way. They seemed to think it was normal usage.
I don't think the usage is primarily a dig by conservatives. I listened to 3 or 4 months of Sean Hannity on the radio and can't remember hearing him use the term. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 18:43, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
- In Amherst, several of my teachers used it half-jokingly, to refer to excessive political correctness on the part of the town or the school board, or less commonly, to refer to such incidences as the performance of The Vagina Monologues, which would be unacceptable in most towns. Generally these teachers did consider themselves "liberals" (with one exception, who never refered to his own politics), and didn't appear to object to the concepts referenced, but were rather old, and did appear to find the goings on in modern Amherst mildly amusing.
- I think it's more often independents who use it actually, most of the Republicans in the town keep fairly quiet, those who don't use rather more hysterical terms. One teacher considered himself a "liberal" but was a staunch independent, the others I can think of didn't mention their affiliation. Regardless, I think it's common to use the term humorously, if one isn't really offended by the goings on but doesn't particularly support them. --184.108.40.206 01:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I think this is kind of inaccurate, though not entirely. Just from having studied Maoism, Mao is pretty specific in saying that China is a people's republic because the People -- workers, students, peasants, cadres, revolutionary classes in general -- enjoy the full benefits of democracy (borrowed from America's 1st amendment) whereas reactionary classes are denied these basic freedoms. I think he talks about it in "On Handling Contradictions Among the People," and Starr does a good job of summarizing it in his book "The Political Thought of Mao". User:arobotar
- Irrelevant. China isn't under Mao anymore and can hardly be called Maoist. 220.127.116.11 22:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
In Chinese, the words for "people's republic" (renmin gongheguo 人民共和国) and "republic" (minguo 民国) are practically synonyms. In fact if you abbreviate "people's republic" in Chinese (a la Chinese language conventions), it becomes "republic" (民国). To the Chinese speaker, renmin gongheguo (people's republic) is just a wordier term for minguo (republic). 18.104.22.168 22:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Not just in Chinese... Republic itself is derived from res publica. -- Миборовский 22:57, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- No, renmin gongheguo never abbreviated as minguo.--刻意(Kèyì) 22:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- 民国 is derived from 人民共和国 via shortening, just like how 美国 comes from 美利坚合众国, 亚洲 comes from 亚细亚, 北大 comes from 北京大学, 台灣高鐵 comes from 台灣高速鐵路 and the "京广" in 京广高速铁路 comes from 北京-广州. Though today 民国 isn't used as an abbreviation for 人民共和国, back in the 1910s it certainly was. The concept of "republic" was a foreign concept, after all, and things tend to have various semantic translations. -- | —Talk contribs email 02:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
If that is the case, wouldn't it make the English phrase "people's republic" similar to a redundant acronym, tautology or pleonasm, given that res publica itself refers to "a public (i.e. "of people") affair"? It seems similar to phrases such as "ATM machine" (automatic teller machine machine) or "PIN number" (personal identification number number), since "people's republic" can be loosely translated as "an affair of people belonging to the people" or "people's people's affair". -- | —Talk contribs email 01:49, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Vital info missing
The article at this point completly lacks the very fundamentals on the meaning of the term. A 'people's republic' or a 'democratic republic' is, in Marxist-Leninist doctrine, not just a state governed by communists, its is a transitory stage towards building socialism. Thus, when the name of Vietnam was changed from 'Democratic Republic of Vietnam' to 'Socialist Republic of Vietnam', this marked a qualitivative development in the analysis of the Communist Party of Vietnam. Likewise, the usage of the term 'People's Republic' denotes that the CP of China does not consider that China has acheived socialism. --12:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree with the anon - my understanding is that Marxist-Leninist doctrine basically envisions a number of steps towards true communism - first you have the bourgeois state - then you have the "democratic republic" or "people's republic" or "people's democracy" which is, theoretically, a popular front type organization where the communist party cooperates with non-communist parties until the time is ready to move to socialism. Thus, the USSR was a socialist state, where only the CPSU was a legal political party, but the various eastern European satellites were "people's democracies" where the communist party (theoretically) governed in coalition with non-communist parties - like the continued existence of the various non-socialist parties in the East German Volkskammer. This ought to be clarified if possible. john k (talk) 16:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Marx and Lenin opposed the idea of a "People's state"
From State and Revolution by Lenin: "We are in favor of a democratic republic as the best form of state for the proletariat under capitalism. But we have no right to forget that wage slavery is the lot of the people even in the most democratic bourgeois republic. Furthermore, every state is a “special force” for the suppression of the oppressed class. Consequently, every state is not “free” and not a “people's state". Marx and Engels explained this repeatedly to their party comrades in the seventies."
Here, Lenin specifically states after attacking people who use the term "people's state" earlier, that there can never be such thing as a "people's state". It seems weird that the article calls "People's Republic" a Marxist-Leninist term when its usage goes strongly against the philosophy of both Marx and Lenin. Maybe it would be more correct to call it a Stalinist or Maoist term. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
The idea of "People's Republics" came during the "People's Democracy" period of the 1940's (of which China was also classified as). "People's Democracies" did not claim to do away with classes or stress that "no class leads the state" per se, it just stressed that everyone was united in fighting fascism. By 1950 or so the People's Republics were described as being under the dictatorship of the proletariat. --Mrdie (talk) 09:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
The origin of the term
The idea of People's republic" term was born in Hungary in 1918. It was invented by count Mihály Károlyi who was liberal capitalist and extremely wealthy man. In 1919, the communist Hungarian Soviet Republic held the name of "People's republic". After that, it became a fasionable prevalent denomination for communist states. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stubes99 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think that "Democratic Republic" shall be redirected here. It don't need to be a socialist republic to take the name 'democratic republic'! —Preceding unsigned comment added by A young communist (talk • contribs) 13:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Too Many Examples in 'Other Uses?'
There's a lot of examples in that paragraph for an expression that could be applied to roughly half the cities on the planet. I get the problem. I come from Taxachussettes myself. It's a liberal state. I've heard people use the term in regards to my state. But I assume that the expression is also applied to Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, and any number of cities, townships, counties, colleges, corporations, etc. You got to draw the line somewhere.
So, I suggest we keep the cities/states/whatevers with a cited reference and purge the rest. If it's really that common a phenomenon that it's become a part of that area's cultural identity, then it should be easy to prove, right? Otherwise, the list just becomes a giant 'me too' pile on. Does that sound fair? 126.96.36.199 (talk) 07:08, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Here's the full list in case anyone wants to find citations and put them back in:
- Examples are The People's Republic of Madison, Wisconsin, "The People's Republic of New Jersey", the People's Republic of Berkeley, the People's Republic of Montclair, the People's Republic of Dublin South-Central, "The People's Republic of Taxachussetts" (Massachusetts), the "People's Republic of South Yorkshire" or "The People's Republic of Chicago". "People's Republic of California", and "People's Republic of Boulder."
- --Wikimedes (talk) 08:40, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Welcome to the People's Republic of New Jersey, Alan Caruba, 28 June 2004, enterstageright.com
- Chicago Sun-Times Reports on Deadbeat Democrats, Mike Bates, 20 February 2009, Chicago Sun-Times