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Steve Murray didn't show up until 6 months after my first stint in the band...........that was 1990...........Andy was later than that, probably 1991. Andy had been playing with Johnny Rodriguez and joined us after Marty and Jim left the band....that's when we went 4 piece instead of 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 15:11, 25 April 2009 (UTC)