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[edit] Climate

"The hottest ever recorded temperature in Perth was 46.2 °C (115 °F) on 23 February 1991. ... The coldest temperature recorded in the Perth metropolitan area was -3.4 degrees Celsius on 17 June 2006 at Jandakot airport."

Is that hottest recorded temperature the hottest "official" Perth temperature (i.e. Mt Lawley)? Or anywhere in the metro area? Because if it's the former, it seems strange to give the hottest for the official Perth station, and the coldest for the entire area. - Mark 10:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
46.2 was the official Perth one. 46.7 at Perth Airport (same day), btw, appears to be the highest metro - I say appears, as many Perth stations don't go back that far and the ones that do don't indicate what their highest ever was. (I'm thinking of the 1933 heatwave and one in the 1890s) The coldest at Perth was -0.7 (same date as Jandakot). Orderinchaos 10:18, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Some of the text in the Climate section, and the Weather data for Perth, Western Australia table does not appear to match the source reference. Possibly this is because (I believe) the Bureau of Meteorology has moved it's "official" recording centre within the last couple of years, so the source material may have changed since this article section was created. Someone with more time than I have at the moment might like to update the section and table to match the source. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

This is because, frustratingly, the source keeps getting changed. The information was included from BOM monthly reports but it for some reason got re-sourced to the incorrect summary page with the same figures. I edited it that long ago that I can't remember, or find, how I sourced it, but I know it was the monthly reports. The summary page is incorrect, by the way, as it only summarises data from 1992 onwards, which is useless from any practical perspective. The monthly reports are the basis from which major news agencies such as ABC, Channel 9 and the West Australian report the averages. Orderinchaos 08:12, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Someone at BOM created summaries of them at [1] and [2]. The figures will slightly mismatch as the new averages provided cover 2009 as well as previous years. Orderinchaos 08:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Perth - suburb, city, metropolis

If the Perth, Western Australia article covers the metropolitan area and City of Perth covers the municipality, where is the article for the locality/suburb of Perth? The locality with the 6000 postcode is split between Town of Vincent and the City of Perth, so neither article covers the locality.The Hack 16:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

At present, it doesn't exist, although I agree it should. There were some discussions aimed at getting one going but our central suburb's boundaries are so manifestly bizarre that I'm not entirely sure we found a solution which worked. Orderinchaos 16:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I've created Perth, Western Australia (suburb), so let the fun begin...The Hack 07:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Perth Residents are known as:

Sandgropers... Never heard of Perthsiders —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.216.99.245 (talk) 12:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Sandgropers are people from WA (not necessarily Perth) according to SOED 6th ed, 2007, and Macquarie Dictionary 2nd ed, 1991. I've not heard the term "Perthsiders" before (I've lived in Perth all my life), but I have heard "Sydneysiders" (used by people in Perth), so it doesn't surprise me if people in the eastern states refer to "Perthsiders". A google search for perthsiders turns up 269 hits, vs 231,000 for sydneysider. Both aforementioned dictionaries include "Sydneysider", but neither has "Perthsider". (SOED doesn't include "Perth" at all, but it does list Sydney: "Used attrib. to designate things from or associated with Sydney, the capital of New South Wales, Australia". Mitch Ames (talk) 14:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
A demonym isn't really used for Perth people - we had this discussion before and "Perthites" seems to be the agreed upon term, but it's only ever used colloquially or in jest. Orderinchaos 14:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I've always used/heard "Perthian". 10800 hits on Google (Perthite results are corrupted by some sort of mineral...) Metao (talk) 01:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
And of course Wikipedia has an article - OK, a redirect - on at least some things: Sydneysider, Perthsider, Perthite?!. Mitch Ames (talk) 14:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Never heard of "Perthsider", sounds like a drink to me though ;), Agree with Orderinchaos. Bidgee (talk) 18:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm born and raised in Perth but am currently living in Sydney, I've heard people say Perthsiders here, but never heard it when I was still living in Perth. I've also never heard of sandgropers. 210.84.59.222 (talk) 10:59, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Climate vandalism

222.154.124.247 has been frequently vandalising the climate section. It hasn't gotten too out of hand so far, but if it continues, maybe semi-protecting the page could help? Anoldtreeok (talk) 02:04, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

IP vandal is now blocked. –Moondyne 02:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Yellow Submarine

Resolved: Apparent vandalism reverted. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:09, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, new editer (sic) here. I love how someone has said Perth is also known as the yellow submarine, but I suspect it is untrue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.245.225 (talk) 10:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Governance

Nearly all of the information in the 'Governance' section is about WA governance, not about Perth or its local council (which is what I was looking for). This information should be moved to WA or if already duplicated there deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneedy (talkcontribs) 22:18, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

If you are looking for information on Perth local council, try City of Perth or Perth, Western Australia (suburb). Hope you can find what you are looking for. IgnorantArmies 02:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
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