Talk:Peter Lundin

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Where is the information about his first marriage ?[edit]

Although the article refers to his first wife, they lived together in Denmark, it is not clear if she was married to him in Denmark or in the USA during his sentence or if indeed she was a second wife and some other woman had been married to him in prison. 79.75.16.86 (talk) 10:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC) Tony S

He got married while in prison in the States, and he also got married while in prison in Denmark. You're right, though, that it wasn't altogether clear in the article, so I've put it in. It was already in the reference, but that would only be accessible to us Danish speakers. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 14:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Notability in question[edit]

This BLP may not meet English Wikipedia notability requirements and I have tagged it as such. I contacted the creating editor and asked for assistance in establishing notability. In addition, I removed an unsourced, potentially controversial sentence. momoricks (make my day) 04:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I am working on it and it's pretty much done now. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 09:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to Lilac Soul for adding citations to the article. At this point, Lundin's notability appears to be established; however, this is not reflected in the lead. In addition, the "Personal life" section mostly contains information of questionable importance to an encyclopedia, as well as being poorly worded and difficult to understand. Inmates charged with/convicted of crimes against children are often subject to attack. Why is this attack notable/important to readers? The lawsuits can be grouped together. More information is needed about his name change. When? Why? If no one has any objections, I'll try to tackle some of this.
I moved the information in the "Books about Lundin" section to a "Media" section. This allows for future addition of information related to other media types such as films.
I'm a apprehensive about keeping the "Public opinion" section. These kinds of sections are tricky because the inclusion or omission of information can be seen as POV regardless of the wording. In this case, it appears that the contributing editor(s) may have a bias toward Lundin because the section does not include any information about groups that support him. I think it should be removed and only re-added to the article if there is a significantly larger amount of neutral information. momoricks (make my day) 00:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Mass murderer?[edit]

According to Mass_murder#Mass_murder_by_individuals, mass murder is the "killing of four or more people during a particular event". He did kill four people; however, not all at the same time. All of the sources appear to be in Danish, which I cannot read, so I am unable to verify whether Lundin is considered to be a mass murderer by Danish media/experts. I have changed the lead to read "a Danish convicted murderer" until this is clear. momoricks (make my day) 23:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

There are certainly examples of him being referred to as a mass murderer "massemorder" in Danish. This article calls him so: [1], and it is what Pia Kjærsgaard called him, e.g. as mentioned in this article: [2]. Now, if the actual definition involves killing four or more during a particular event is true, he is not by that definition a mass murderer. However, the definition in that article is unsourced, and a quick search I did couldn't establish this. However, if there's a question about it, we can change it to "multiple murderer" or just plain "murderer", and have the reader of the article themselves decide. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 08:34, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I support use of the term "murderer" because it's the least likely to cause confusion or misunderstanding. momoricks (make my day) 03:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)