Talk:Phil Plait

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Real name?[edit]

Surely it is preferable to have the article under the guy's real name, and have 'Bad Astronomer' as the redirect, instead of the other way round?--Fangz 20:57, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I reckon you're right, I just turned the Phil Plait one into the redirect because it was the shorter of the two. Because both already exist I reckon we'll need an admin to do the swap-over. Sockatume 12:38, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

External links[edit]

User Frecklefoot, in his 13:58, 26 August 2005 revision, said, "extern links, the way they were used are prohibited". What I want to know is, prohibited in what way? The Wikipedia:External links doesn't say that anything is wrong about external links being used like this (the space.com link). The "Bad Astronomy" book link I can understand (1.3, What should not be linked to, #2: Links to a site that is selling products, unless it applies via a "do" above), although in the context of the article I think it'd be alright. If not, linking here would be appropriate, no? WayneC 06:19, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Edit: On second thought, linking to Bad Astronomy's book page would probably be better, because it contains more information and links to reviews. WayneC 06:23, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

It's not covered in the "Extern links" section of the Manual of Style. But extern links in-line in the article are discouraged (not really prohibited, probably). But including them as cites is allowed, and that's what I changed them to. HTH. Frecklefoot | Talk 09:33, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Watch out for Vandals[edit]

I just changed back all the references to "BadAstronomy.com". Some vandal has changed it to BadAstronomer.com. Which is a known woo-woo site run by a banned member of Bad Astronomy.

Be on the lookout for vandals, and make sure the links work, and point to the correct sites. Skyman8081 18:46, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Edit: Hi! This is the titular Bad Astronomer here. If anyone sees this page as being changed by "vandals", please contact me at badastro @ badastronomy.com. I'd like to know if/when it happens. Thanks! Phil Plait TheBadAstronomer 20:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, editors watching this page will revert any vandalism they notice, but don't expect anyone to email you. That is considered very un-wiki. Frecklefoot | Talk 01:48, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

Edit: Thanks for that. I didn't know. OK, that's cool. But I am familiar with this particular vandal, and he will continue to come back and change this page. I will subscribe to the page (as have others) and correct it whenever he comes back. Is there any other action that can be taken? Thanks. TheBadAstronomer 21:03, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Kinda doubtful, I'm afraid. If he uses a consistent IP, then we can block these IPs. However, looking at the history page, this guy seems to cycle through IPs, so we may hit innocent people too. Possibly, we can protect the page and prevent it from being edited at all, but that's a very drastic step and I don't think things are that bad yet.
Of course, since we know his IP, we can theoretically track him down and send one of our highly trained wikininjas to teach him a lesson with the wiffle bat...--Fangz 00:14, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Small Edit[edit]

I added one sentance about the merger of the boards so that other people would not get confused as I did about it. William Stoett

Redirect from Babb[edit]

Umm...why in the world does this page redirect from "babb"? Babb is my last name and it has alot of history dating all the way back to England before William the Conqueror(pre-1000 AD). Im going to change it unless someone could give me a good reason why not too.


BABB used to stand for the Bad Astronomy Bulletin Board, so that's why it redirected to this page. The board is now BAUT (Bad Astronomy and Universe Today), so it's fine by me if you change it. -Phil Plait

I second the notion to stop the re-direct from "Babb" to this page. I was curious why it did so and had to look all the way here on the Talk page to find out why it did so. Does that necessitate that we create a page for the "Babb" entry? Michaeloz 23:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Move BadAstronomy.com?[edit]

Since there's a Bad Astronomy article for the book, it seems like it'd be appropriate to put the website section on that page. So the Phil article is about Phil and the BA article is about the book and website. --ndc (talk) 01:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

That seems OK to me. I'll let others weigh in though. Bubba73 (talk), 01:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
The approval of another person made it worth sticking merge proposal tags up. =D --ndc (talk) 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I do not think it is necessary to remove the section on BadAstronomy.com. In its current state, it adds to the article about its creator and, seeing as how the subject of the article is known for his work on BadAstronomy.com, the section compliments the article. If this specific section grows so large that it detracts from, rather than enhances the article, a move might be prudent. As things are at the moment, I find it wholy unnecessary Anrie (talk) 12:05, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I would argue there is a large enoug difference between the book and the badastronomy.com website that the two should remain seperate. The blog covers general science news, science fiction news, skeptic news, and examples of "bad astronomy." This section could use a little cleanup, but besides that I think it should stay where it is for now. 3Juno3 (talk) 22:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, do not converge this section into Bad Astronomy. BA Blog and the book are different. 76.114.240.3 (talk) 14:16, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I am removing the notice. Orion11M87 (talk) 14:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

This article does not meet wikipedia standards[edit]

Phil Plait is not even a minor celebrity. He is not famous and therefore doesn't deserve mention. I suggest this article be deleted. Wamboman (talk) 04:17, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. Having a show on the Discovery Channel and featured, no matter how brief, on Time.com makes him notable. From Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline: "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material." There is no mention of celebrity status. Blehfu (talk) 04:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I worked all over the Harvard Medical School campus ... there are some extremely famous intellects there and most of them dont have more than a one or two paragraph item here on wiki ... not only should this person's wiki article be massively cut back but also someone should personally tell him to STOP TALKING WITH HIS HANDS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.171.210 (talk) 00:10, 19 January 2011 (UTC) I will give an example ... this guy is 100 x's the intelect of phil plait and see how little he gets on wiki, Jack L. Strominger —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.171.210 (talk) 00:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks like you have some work to do then. Stop commenting on Plaits page and start working on their sites. Sgerbic (talk) 15:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

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False and misleading quotes by Phil Plait[edit]

Expansion[edit]

I have just performed an expansion and reorganization of parts of the article, primarily focusing on Career, research and educational outreach, while also adding, updating and improving citations where applicable. Here's hoping these edits are helpful. Nmillerche (talk) 02:13, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

I think this page has been greatly improved over the last few months. I have assessed it as "B" class on the Wikiproject Skepticism but I have not assessed it for the other wikiprojects. Members of those projects may want to do that.
Perhaps it should be referred for an official review by the GA reviewers. Should I do that or does someone else want to weigh in first? Allecher (talk) 01:24, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Planet X, or Nibiru cataclysm?[edit]

Someone put a wikilink to Nibiru cataclysm and labeled it Planet X. These are two completely different things, and links should not be mislabeled to mislead the reader. We need to fix ths, but I'm not familiar enough with Plait to know exactly which idea he's debunking. JustinTime55 (talk) 16:35, 25 February 2014 (UTC)