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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that shaven drunk bears wearing women's clothing were exhibited as pig-faced women in the 19th century?

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Surely an excellent candidate for April 1 2011. --Dweller (talk) 16:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Over my dead body. – iridescent 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strong reaction! Why? --Dweller (talk) 20:16, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you're personally volunteering to be the one to fight off the cranks on the day—and to have the choice of being blocked for editwarring, or sitting by and watching it degenerate into grey goo—don't propose an article on a controversial topic to be TFA, especially an article in which you had no part in the writing, as this is the reaction you'll invariably get. The only thing worse than a high-traffic TFA is an April 1 TFA. The back-and-forth flamewars over this years April 1 TFA have still not entirely died down, and were only brought to even a vague semblance of stability through Arbcom stepping in and blocking the noisiest of the agitators. (If you check the history of the page (and of this talkpage) you'll see that this article is already an occasional target for Mattisse socks.) In any case, it won't happen; I've already been the victim of a high-profile TFA this month, and Raul wouldn't put somebody through it twice without an excellent reason. – iridescent 20:49, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well-written; a good observation of folklore. 68.154.166.156 (talk) 07:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shulto Henry Maclellan correction[edit]

Shulto Henry Maclellan (d 1827)was the 8th Lord of Kirkcudbright. The 9th Lord was Camden Gray Maclellan(d 1832). Whereapon the title became dormant. See page 191 to Minute Book kept by the committee of the Covenanters in the Stewartry of Kirkcudbright in the years 1640-1641. reproduced in 1854 by Nicholson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.185.208.198 (talk) 00:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Popular culture?[edit]

I'm thinking of the episode of the Twilight Zone with the woman and the pig-faced people (who thought she was ugly) and also the episode on Seinfeld with the pig-faced boy that Kramer thought he saw at the hospital. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Don't forget The Sword in the Stone, where Madam Mim turns into one. FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk) 01:48, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Pig-faced Lady and the Spanish Mule.jpg to appear as POTD[edit]

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:The Pig-faced Lady and the Spanish Mule.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on April 27, 2015. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2015-04-27. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of the day

The Pig-faced Lady of Manchester Square and the Spanish Mule of Madrid, an 1815 cartoon print by George Cruikshank depicting a pig-faced woman and contrasting her with the unpopular Ferdinand VII of Spain. At this time, rumours had spread that such a woman was living in fashionable Manchester Square, and various newspapers (such as the Morning Herald and Morning Chronicle) reported this as fact. Eyewitness accounts, marriage proposals, and tales of attacks by the woman further fanned the flames, and the rumour was recollected as fact as late as the 1860s.

Stories of pig-faced women originated in the late 1630s; the last significant work to treat their existence as genuine was published in 1924.Print: George Cruikshank

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Bio created for Gris[edit]

/* Griselda Steevens */ biography created - not sure if all the detail of her life needs to be here too but its an FA article so I will leave authors to consider. The new article currently uses stuff from here obviously with attribution. Victuallers (talk) 16:21, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe not all the details, but the basic story needs to remain, as "well, there was one in Dublin before so it's obviously possible" is necessary background to why the 19th century PFW scare managed to convince so many people who should have known better. Besides, I'm reluctant to direct readers to Grizell Steevens, which is pretty much a how-to guide on how not to write a Wikipedia article, being basically a large chunk of this article copied-and-pasted verbatim. I'm inclined to AFD the biography, since she's notable only for a single thing which is "supposedly looked like a pig"; calling her "creator and part-benefactor of Dr Steevens' Hospital" is stretching the truth to the limit, since the creation of the hospital was the legacy of Dr Steevens and all she did was decide to accelerate the timescale of his will's execution, and I don't see how a separate bio serves any useful purpose to readers. ‑ Iridescent 17:28, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is not a discussion forum, but it struck me (as a Danish speaker) that the most featured names in the article, Griselda Steevens and Tannakin Skinker, almost sound like word plays. "Gris" means pig in Danish (from which the archaic English term "grice" is derived"), and "skinke" means ham... Probably coincidences, but weird. FunkMonk (talk) 09:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]