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WP:GA/R[edit]

I'm taking this article to WP:GA/R because 1. No notice was given on the talk page when it was speedied and 2. Because this article does have a "cultural impact" section, detailing the relevance of the subject to real life. Homestarmy (talk) 15:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I have relisted it. Geometry guy 19:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Wicked Crispy (talk) 21:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[1]Wiki Pika Link

Speaking of Cultural Impact, I was under the impression that the creature was derived from the real life Pika, in the above posted link.


That's what I was under the impression of, too. 99.225.16.250 (talk) 19:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Parody appearance[edit]

Do the editors of this article think that the appearance of the clearly derivative "Peekaboo" character in the Young Justice: Sins of Youth storyline would merit mention in the "In popular culture" section or not? In that instance, I believe there was a 50-foot tall version rampaging through town who most of the characters had to take on shortly before the finale. John Carter (talk) 17:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I never heard of that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleplexPlus (talkcontribs) 02:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Pika in Smash Bros.[edit]

Should we add any further info about Pikachu in the Smash Bros. series? Pezzar (talk) 07:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Pikachu does play a major roll in the 3 Smash Bros. series, but I think the current paragraph(s) is fine. We could possibly add a single sentence about (his/her) role in SSE, but that's about it. --haha169 (talk) 00:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk archiving[edit]

This page is enormous. For the sake of everyone's sanity, I was considering archiving the talk page. Per WP:AATP, a consensus should be established first. The reason to do this archiving seems obvious: This pages is full of lengthy, dead discussions. It would be better for promoting future discussions to have one of the bots archive this page every few months, or at least make the first archive by hand now. So, let's leave the discussion open for a few days: Is there any good reason, based on Wikipedia guidelines and precedents, not to do this? (I'm only proposing to archive very old ones, say those above "GA removal") TheBilly (talk) 23:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I support an archive, but archive everything up to the end of October 2007 to leave only the most recent comments on the page. MelicansMatkin (talk) 00:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree. There's no reason not to, and if nothing else, there's a snowball's chance that there'd be a reason not to archive the page here. --Cheeser1 (talk) 01:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Definite Archive. And quickly, too. This page is enormous. --haha169 (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Archived. MelicansMatkin (talk) 15:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It's been another 2 years, should we archive again? Dude1818 (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

GA to FA[edit]

Well, I'm trying to get this article improved to FA status, so if anyone wants to pitch in, that'd be great. Useight (talk) 02:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Linking[edit]

Please don't link this into the article List of Pokemon I think such Pikachu is Ash Ketchum's Pokemon it deserves to stay the same Matthew Cantrell (talk) 02:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean, are you requesting that the page not be redirected to List of Pokémon? Useight (talk) 02:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

New image of Pikachu[edit]

As you can see, I have uploaded a new picture: Pikachu.svg. It is derived from a CDR image, which can be found here. The converting and cropping hasn't done it much good however. I've contacted Tkgd2007 about this, and if he can't help, I'll contact someone else. The original PNG file can still be found here. Cheers, Face 19:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I requested improvement of this picture at the graphic lab, see here. If you are able to improve this image, please do! - Face 21:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Snapshots[edit]

Please consider adding this gallery as a list of relevant photos about Pikachu RyanTMulligan (talk) 16:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Mammal?![edit]

Yeah, there's no way that (1) pikachu is a mammal, and (2) is of "high" importance as a mammal. Triptenator (talk) 20:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree that Pikachu wouldn't be of high-importance to the Mammal wikiproject, whoever, Pikachu is a mouse Pokémon, and mice are mammals. Useight (talk) 23:12, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Ovipositioning mammals are not impossible, besides. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 05:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
It can be "high" importance as a mammal on the wikiproject, since I doubt kids care more about platypuses than Pikachu. However, its listing as GA is invalid. I've removed it.

Just wondering- how can you make such an extensive page about Pikachu and not mention that the creature is directly and obviously based on a real animal, both in name and appearance? Pikas are real. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pika Surely that's worth a note or link. 64.230.111.214 (talk) 13:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

While pikachu has a name similar i doubt it is based on a pika due to the fact that it its name is Japanese. Pika is an American name, although there is no doubt that Pikachu is a mammal due to the fact that it has fur, a requirement for any being to be a mammal. - ([[user:mdnovelli]mdnovelli])

As far as I can remember, Pikachu has never been compared to a Pika, and was only stated to be a mouse-type Pokémon. If you can find a source stating that Pikachu was based on a Pika, then please present it and we can add that to the article. Artichoker[talk] 14:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The same issue was dealt with both here and on Talk:Pika; the end result was that the comparison was inherently original research (as is any other Pokémon comparison). I will note that the relevant discussion is still up on Talk:Pika. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 19:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
My bad. My comment above was mistaken with Meowth. --haha169 (talk) 04:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I was just thinking, the artical states that the red cercals on pikachu contain electrick sacks, but I beleive they are referanced as being electrick sacks them selves.--Pika17 (talk) 00:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah... I'm not entirely sure how to put that the best way. The Pokédex from Stadium 1 states: "It stores electricity in its cheeks" FireRed, however, says: "It has small electric sacs on both its cheeks." And Emerald says: "It stores electricity in the electric bags on its cheeks." - Face 08:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I think the principle should be to go for the most authentic source, which means the canonical pokedexes. Then we should use latest pokedex in case of any inconsistency. In any case, the pokedex from stadium is not inconsistent since electricity in the sacs in the cheeks is still electricity in the cheeks. Yili2943 (talk) 05:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

FireRed's and Stadium's are both translations of the same Japanese. Stadium's Pokédex contains half of the entries from Japanese Red&Green and half of the entries from Japanese Blue. Pikachu's happens to be taken from Japanese Red&Green. But English Red&Blue both use the Pokédex (as well as other features) from Japanese Blue. When FireRed and LeafGreen were released, LeafGreen was found to have entries from Japanese Blue (and so, English Red&Blue), and FireRed was found to have entries from Japanese Red&Green (which were previously untranslated fully), but this time with a new translation. In that way I'd think FireRed's sort of over-rides Stadium's entry for Pikachu; it's found in a main game of the series, and is a newer translation compared to the entry of English Stadium. Akata (talk) 00:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The name Pikachu comes from the Japanese word for mouse, "pika," and the Japanese word for the sound a mouse makes, "chu." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dude1818 (talkcontribs) 20:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

About the hatnote[edit]

Is "Pikachu" that confusable with any "Picacho"? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

A person could be looking for Picacho, and simply misspell it. I think the distinguish template is needed. Artichokertalk 02:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Category:Fictional monsters[edit]

Why was Pikachu removed from the fictional monsters category? Pikachu is clearly a monster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.175.50.102 (talk) 05:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Only if you take the name of the franchise as gospel. A category of fictional rodents is a better fit. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 05:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
But officaly they are, "monsters" in thje defitnition of one that kills by cuteness and annoying sounds; and being god in pokemon form...--Jakezing (talk) 13:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Pikachu has never killed anything. Pokémon never die, only faint. Artichoker[talk] 15:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
wHICH MAKES LITTLE SENCE ANYWAYS, BUT SO DOES THE IDEA OF A CREATURE THAT YOU NEARLY KILL, AND THEN TRAP IN A SMALL BALL WOULD WANT TO NOT KILL YOU AFTER THAT, AND PIKACHU IS A GOD, HE NEVER LOSES, AND WHEN HE DOES, HE TAKES 5 MINUTES, AND THNE COMES BACK AND KICKS THE OPPONETS ASS,wtf, why was caps on. srry.--Jakezing (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
This is not a forum to discuss the merits of Pokémon or how Pikachu is undefeated in the anime. This talk page should only be used to discuss improvements to the article. Thanks. Useight (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Level 99[edit]

Is it safe to assume Pikachu is level 99? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Utils (talkcontribs) 03:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

No, not really. There has to be proof that it is level 99 in the TV shows. Try finding a reference for what the actual level it is first. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 03:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
In the TV shows, levels are not mentioned. If his Pikachu was level 99, then Ash would be a pretty incompetent trainer, considering Pikachu still loses fights. Although, in Crystal, Red's Pikachu was level 81. bibliomaniac15 04:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Wouldn't Pikachu's level increase as you played the game instead of having a set level? Useight (talk) 04:34, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, in Pokemon, they do mention "levels" as when saying "look, this pokemon leveled up!". This was really only mentioned in the later seasons. -- RyRy (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and what bibliomaniac was saying is that a character had a pikachu. Since it is the computer playing that character, Red (funny name), it is a set level. -- RyRy (talk) 04:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah, it was owned by a non-playable character. I always thought Red was a playable character (I believe the Pokémon Trainer in Super Smash Bros Brawl was designed after Red). I'm really not familiar with Pokémon after the original 151, in my mind it's still Ash, Misty, and Brock being chased by Team Rocket. Useight (talk) 05:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, no. The Pokemon character in Super Smash Bros Brawl was not based on Red in the Crystal, Silver, and Gold versions of pokemon video games. It was based on the male playable character of the Pokemon Fire Red and Pokemon Leaf Green versions of Pokemon video games. Oh, and it's actually Ash, Brock, and Dawn being chased by Team Rocket now. :D Hehe, I can't believe how much I still know about Pokemon even if I'm not much of a fan anymore, I'm a bit too old for Pokemon. ^_^ -- RyRy (talk) 05:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, yeah, the male character in Pokémon Fire Red does look like Brawl's Pokémon Trainer. But, according to the article, the character's name is Red. "A bit too old for Pokémon"? Just because you grow old, doesn't mean you have to grow up. Or said differently, you don't stop having fun when you get old, you get old when you stop having fun. Useight (talk) 05:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I guess. Then consider me a Pokemon fan again! :) And I didn't see it said that in the article. -- RyRy (talk) 06:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Just to clear everything up, Red is the playable character in Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow, FireRed, and LeafGreen. He is the NPC (the one battled at the very end) in Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal. He is also the Pokémon Trainer in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Also the battle mechanics in the Pokémon anime are vastly different from those in the games, so saying Pikachu is level 99 would most likely be incorrect, as well as nonnotable. Artichoker[talk] 14:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

You know, I find it kind of funny that all of you guys are having a forum discussion over a topic brought up by someone who had to rely on a bot to leave a sig! --haha169 (talk) 04:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
You can't be older than nine. NO WAY should the fact that I forgot to sign my own comment have any baring on this clearly thought provoking topic. You're pulling at straws, man. You take Wikipedia WAY too seriously.Utils (talk) 10:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I think his level is over 9000. Jabberwockgee (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

In the games, your starter is level 5. So when Ash got Pikachu, it was probably level 5 as well, and has been leveling up since then. Dude1818 (talk) 20:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

If Ash's Pikachu was level 99, the highest level in Pokemon would be level 9,900. Voxhit (talk) 02:50, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Concept/creation[edit]

Here's a question I have that should be addressed: was Pikachu selected from the beginning as the flagship Pokemon, or did it evolve that way after the anime gained popularity? I seem to remember Pikachu being heavily featured in merchandise early on, but the first video games don't particularly highlight it. Brutannica (talk) 22:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually I seem to remember reading somewhere that some other Pokémon (I think it was Clefairy) was initially the mascot in the very beginning, until Pikachu continued to gain popularity and was picked to star in the anime. Unfortunately, I forgot exactly what I was reading. Artichoker[talk] 23:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps you mean the Pocket Monsters manga where Clefairy is a main character?—Loveはドコ? (talkcontribs) 23:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Nope, it had nothing to do with the Manga. I just remember reading somewhere about the origin of Pikachu, and it mentioned that initially a different Pokémon was the franchise's mascot. Artichoker[talk] 23:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I once heard that the other mascot from the beginning was actually Jigglypuff. I guess Pikachu was chosen (no pun intended) over Jigglypuff in the end. Useight (talk) 05:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
It could have been Jigglypuff. I get the two pink fluffballs mixed up from time to time. Artichoker[talk] 14:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

That question has been answered through a cited statement in the article. :) --haha169 (talk) 00:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of that, apparently the Diamond/Pearl director was talking about Pikachu's name being chosen for appeal... surely he wasn't involved in it back then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 23:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Ketchup and Ice-cream[edit]

We need to mention Pikachu's love for ketchup and ice-cream. Both of which are seen in the anime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PikachuSnowman (talkcontribs) 04:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't remember that; granted I only watched from seasons 1-3. Artichoker[talk] 14:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I can't recall the ice cream either; I only recall the ketchup thing happening once, in the season 1 episode "Showdown in Dark City". MelicansMatkin (talk) 19:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
It also likes apples; one even got stuck in its throat in "A Chansey Operation" (ep. 47). Cheers, Face 20:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Good remembering, Face; I'd forgotten all about that one. But the addition of these three things begs the question; are they really necessary? It just seems kind of trivial to me. MelicansMatkin (talk) 21:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Pikachu's love for ketchup is also shown in the Johto story arc, as Pikachu can be seen with a bottle of it while Ash and company are eating. Also, Pikachu is shown eating ice-cream in the episode in which the Clefairy build a spaceship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PikachuSnowman (talkcontribs) 05:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Are they true? Yes. Are they trivial and/or irrelevant to understanding what a Pikachu is? Also yes. Ergo, do we add them? Nein. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 18:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

They are not trivial details. As shown in many episodes, the physical appearance of Pokemon can be affected by the foods they eat. Ketchup may be an important part of keeping Pikachu's cheeks red! Also, ice-cream may be important in cooling down a Pikachu. Electricity is very hot!PikachuSnowman (talk) 06:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

However, unless you have some reliable third-party sources, that would be original research. Useight (talk) 05:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

It is established that food can alter appearances, so we can let readers decide if these parts of a Pikachu's diet are affecting its color.PikachuSnowman (talk) 06:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but the facts remain trivial because the diet thing only applies in a third of Pokémon's metaseries (Remember, the franchise is divided into manga, animé, and video game; all three have separate canons). What is true in the anime is sometimes not true in the other two (the same applies to the manga and the video games - for example, the video games state that Team Rocket was disbanded during the timeline of Gold/Silver/Crystal, but Team Rocket is still alive in the anime).-Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 07:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
In the video games, Pokemon can have differing appearances (Shiny Pokemon, East-West Sea Shellos... etc.). Also, all Pokemon of a species are not identical in the manga as well.PikachuSnowman (talk) 07:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
True, but diet is generally not the cause of it in the video games (as I've noticed a Shiny Geodude in the same area as mundane Geodudes), and the East-West thing is explained in game as a form of literal evolution. And, as I said, What is true in one isn't true in the rest (while all Pokémon have generally the same look in the games, the anime and manga have variances between members of the same specie. It still does not mean diet plays into it). -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 09:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Users should be given the full story of the domesticated Pikachu's diet, so that they can draw their own conclusions about differences in Pokemon appearances. Stop reversing my edit! It is essential information!PikachuSnowman (talk) 00:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't a purveyor of original research, and what you're suggesting is just that. And, as you keep ignoring, the diet issue isn't universal in the miniseries. Come back with a better argument, please; the ones you have are weak and/or indefensible. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 03:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
No, I am not. I am just reporting the facts, so that users may draw their own conclusions. The fact is that I have seen a domesticated Pikachu enjoying ketchup and ice-cream. We can let the users decide what this information means. Also, since we have not seen any Pikachu reject these items (in any media) we cannot assume that these Pikachu dislike ketchup and ice-cream.PikachuSnowman (talk) 03:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
That is because, again, only the anime actually shows Pikachu eating ketchup and/or ice cream. And as you describe it, it's original research because it's not confirmed throughout the whole metaseries and are shown only as one-off incidents. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 03:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Lets assume that Ash's domesticated Pikachu is a fan of ketchup and ice cream. Even with this assumption there are three problems with including this information in this article:
  • Just because Ash's Pikachu shows an affinity for certain foods does not mean that every single domesticated Pikachu with have the same likes. If you could find more domesticated Pikachu which enjoyed those foods as well then you may have an argument, however i do not think that information exists.
  • The fact stated has absolutely no notability in the real world or the Pokemon universe. Wikipedia does not exist to provide such specific facts as the one you have added. You need to prove that this fact has notability in this article.
  • You have provided no reference for your fact. Without a reference your information cannot be verified.
I hope this matter can be resolved swiftly and efficiently, a dispute like this could hurt the article itself.
I will solve all three points. First, I will put the fact in the "In the anime" section. Second, this has notability because Pokemon tastes are taken into account when Pokéblocks and Poffins are made. Also, during the anime, the color red is very important as Pikachu is attracted to apples, which landed him in a sticky situation and Scyther and Electabuzz both go beserk after seeing the color. The overall theme of Ash's Pikachu being more human than other Pokemon is also well represented, with Pikachu being able to do human-like things such as lick an ice-cream cone, drink a small beverage (and use the garbage can), communicate with Ash through signing, and not staying in his Pokeball. Lastly, Pikachu's affinity for ketchup is shown in Episode 42, Showdown at Dark City, and Pikachu's affinity for ice-cream is shown in Episode 62, Clefairy Tales.PikachuSnowman (talk) 07:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Issue 1: Only ASH'S Chu shows such an affinity. None of the other Chu do, meaning these are one-off jokes, and you never mentioned color before (though, again, the whole color thing is a one-off joke that doesn't come into play again). Second, neither ice cream nor ketchup are included in the games, making your Pokéblock (candy) and Poffin (bread) arguments DOA (and Pokémon go for taste, not looks, in the game based on their natures). Third, Pikachu doesn't stay in a Pokéball because he hates being confined (Remember that Pikachu points that out in the second episode of the anime). Fouth, the fact that each were used in one ÜND PRECISELY VON episode means that, by definition, they are one-off jokes. The fact of the matter remains that these facts are needless miscellany and thus can't be included in the article. As I said before, please come up with arguments that can't be blown out of the water. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 07:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
To PikachuSnowman: I must admit you have some good points, and that you know a hell of a lot of Pokémon, more than I do. But seriously dude, just let it drop. Cheers, Face 07:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I find this discussion very funny. That sentence has been in and out the Pikachu article for months; who would've thought an edit war would surface. To PikachuSnowman - if you want to cite that information, find the episode that mentioned it and use {{cite episode}}. --haha169 (talk) 18:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I already cited the episodes. It was episode 42 for the ketchup and episode 62 for the ice-cream. I have not responded for a while because I know that there is another epsiode that shows Pikachu eating ketchup, I just need to find its name or number. PikachuSnowman (talk) 18:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
And then? - Face 20:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Add the content! PikachuSnowman (talk) 20:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Even though 5 users disagree with it because it only tells something about Ash' Pikachu, and is not significant enough? - Face 21:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, even if you had the cites the info would still be too trivial to use in the article because only one Chu has shown such an affinity - Ash's. Your other arguments in support of allowing it do not hold water, and even if they did, consensus is that the information is too trivial for inclusion. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 21:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
There is an entire paragraph and more dedicated to Ash's Pikachu!PikachuSnowman (talk) 22:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
And? Just because Ash's Chu shows an affinity for something does not mean EVERY Chu will hold the same likes. Kuro ♪ 22:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Kuro's correct. As I've been saying, Wikipedia is not a collection of minutiae. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 23:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
You missed my point, everyone was against me because this fact might only apply to Ash's Pikachu and not all Pikachu. However, there is much information on the Pikachu page that only applies to Ash's Pikachu, thus my fact would be in good company.PikachuSnowman (talk) 04:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually, you're the one missing the point. From WP:NOT#IINFO, and I quote (emphasis added):

Wikipedia treats fiction in an encyclopedic manner; discussing the reception, impact and significance of notable works. A concise plot summary is appropriate as part of the larger coverage of a fictional work. See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction).

This means that extraneous minutiae that rarely, if ever, come up in a work and do not play a significant rule can be excised per Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. What you're campaigning for, unfortunately, is extraneous minutiae. Ergo it will not be added. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 05:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
This point is quite notable, and I know Pikachu is seen eating ketchup in more than one episode.PikachuSnowman (talk) 06:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
(RI) Notability only applies to articles. IINFO applies to stuff like this, and so far, it fails IINFO (and would certainly fail WP:N). -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 06:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Category suggestions[edit]

Fictional characters who can move at superhuman speeds
Comments? - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't think so. He is quick, but I don't think it's quick enough to be "superhuman". I think "superhuman speed" would be more applicable to Superman, Flash, and Sonic the Hedgehog, fictional characters known specifically for their speed. Useight (talk) 18:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if I would describe Superman, FLash, and Sonic the Hedgehog as what superhuman speed should be described as - they certainly are the definition of it, but I think some characters, while much slower, are considerably faster than the average human, hence, superhuman. Though, seeing as how many real animals run at >60MPH at times, I could see why Pikachu might not qualify, though I was thinking his electricity affiliation could change it. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Pikachu varies a lot from Sonic, the Flash, and Superdick, however, in that he's not truly sapient (the rest are). -Jéské (v^_^v Bodging WP edit by edit) 19:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The only way Pikachu moves extremely fast is through quick attack. That shouldn't count as its regular speed. On a side note, Pokemon are sentient. Dude1818 (talk) 20:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

GA re-assessment as of 2008-09-24[edit]

Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Pikachu/2

eksuese me?[edit]

is i new to Wikipedai, i speaks english both spanish too, am want vandilize know who pika article? is not he going get done himself by? Me thinks too before he is vandal again! Plaese! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.71.208 (talk) 20:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

For stuff link this, see WP:RFPP. -Jéské (v^_^v Kacheek!) 18:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

is vs are[edit]

I am not a Pokèmon master but it seems odd to see Pikachu being referred to as both is and are. Any ideas? Kushal (talk) 11:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I believe "is" is used when it refers to a single, specific Pikachu and "are" is used when it refers to the species. Useight (talk) 14:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
One Pikachu, two Pikachu, red Pikachu, blue Pikachu. Same applies to any other Pokémon species. -Jeremy (v^_^v Cardmaker) 23:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
To clarify; Ash's Pikachu is one of his first Pokémon. Pikachu are found in multiple places. Its like saying "My cat is a wonderful pet" and "Cats are a wonderful pet". "Is" refers to a single thing. "Are" refers to the whole species. --Blake (talk) 02:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
As someone that came here knowing only a little bit about "Pokémon", I REALLY think this article would be greatly improved by an edit making clear distinction between the character called "Pikachu" and the fictional Pokémon 'species'[?] also called "Pikachu". Separate articles might be overkill though (esp. given the overlap/fictional nature) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.17.174 (talk) 12:22, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Reverted Vandalism[edit]

I reverted the vandalism of the picture back to normal. Sorry if I'm not supposed to be saying it here, since I'm new to this. 71.178.183.174 (talk) 22:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh that's no problem at all. Thank you very much for catching and reverting it! People don't normally mention reverted vandalism on the talk page, but I'm glad that you let us know about it. Cheers, MelicansMatkin (talk) 23:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Pikachu deserves more than one Sentence on SSB[edit]

I believe that Pikachu deserves more than one sentence on Super Smash Bros. Let me give examples of how SSB is covered in other articles:

  1. Fox McCloud: 3 paragraphs
  2. Mario and Luigi: 1 paragraph each
  3. Lucas (who has only been in Brawl): 1 long paragraph
  4. Link: 1 long paragraph

I had a three-sentence squib (no longer than any other desciption of any other character), and then somebody decided to go to an edit war to stop me, and accused me not knowing what Wikipedia is (despite the fact that I have made almost 1000 edits), of turning Wikipedia into something called a "Wikia" and dumping loads of gamecraft in. I would say that precedent is on my side, considering the wide volume of media on SSB in other Wikipedia articles, and I'll probably revert his edit when a favorable consensus is reached. Here's what it'll look like:

Pikachu has also appeared in Super Smash Bros.,Super Smash Bros. Melee, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl as a playable character. His skill set is similar to that of the video games, focusing on electrical attacks. Pichu appears in Melee.

Compare with Luigi:

In every game of the Super Smash Bros. series, Luigi is an unlockable character. An alternate form of Luigi, Metal Luigi, appears in the Adventure Mode of Super Smash Bros. Melee. In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, can use a "negative zone" to attack enemies, which is composed of dark energy formed as a result of spending his life in his brother's shadow.

So yeah, no more gamecrufty than any other article. Except for the edit warlock, is everybody OK with this? Purplebackpack89 (talk) 03:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't want to drag on a side-dispute irrelvant to the overall discussion but I will say this: User:Kung Fu Man has made far more than 1000 edits, and in any case the number of edits a user makes has no bearing on their knowledge of Wikipedia. You say that you'll just rveert his edits tomorrow afternoon? If you really knew the most important and core Wikipedia policies (as you seem to claim), you would know that Attempts to circumvent the three-revert rule, such as making a fourth revert just after 24 hours, are strongly discouraged and may trigger the need for remedies, such as an editing block on one's account (from WP:Reverting, which paraphrases WP:3RR; a section you have already been pointed to).
Now, lets not have any more accusations or assumptions of bad faith and just discuss the issue at hand instead. Sound good? MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 03:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Changed to "when a favorable consensus is reached" Purplebackpack89 (talk) 04:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
To explain it a little better, every article you cited is not of Good quality or higher: if they were, the details would be more reigned in. Tackling both issues:
  • Pichu's presence really has no impact on Pikachu as a character. It was just Pichu present in the game.
  • The gameplay details are unnecessary and violate WP:GAMEGUIDE. Consider the article for a casual reader, and consider that it's already been discussed earlier in the article how Pikachu discharges electrical energy. Adding more info adds nothing to the subject.
I get that you're trying to do good here, but Wikipedia is for encyclopedic articles of subjects, including fictional characters that just happen to be in a game series you apparently like a lot. And that means treating the subject for someone that isn't a gamer, and may know nothing about Pikachu, Pokemon, video games, or so forth at all.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 04:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the discussion of Fox's helmet and belt is excessive, but I do not agree that adding a paragraph on the very popular SSB is excessive (If I was alone on that point, then all that stuff you call "gamecruft" would have been gone ages ago), nor do I agree that adding two sentences about what Pikachu does makes it a game guide (which, I would point out, is mentioned only fleetingly). If you want game guide, go to [2]--it has two paragraphs on EACH of Pikachu's attacks. Why are so concerned that adding two sentences will completely foul up the article? P.S.: Stop batting around that I'm unencyclopedic. There is tons of trivia in a real encyclopedia Purplebackpack89 (talk) 05:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Because the point of these articles is to take them to good article and featured article status, not just to add more info. And it wouldn't matter if it was one, two, or three more sentences - if they're not under the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia and not towards what's required of taking the article to GA and FA status, then that is counterproductive (i.e. "fouling up the article" as you put it) and they go. It has nothing to do with you personally. Likewise the fact that stuff exists elsewhere has little bearing on how material is intended to exist on Wikipedia. Trivia is considered unencyclopedic here, as is gameguide material. And if the SSB is indeed very popular and important to Pikachu, then you shouldn't have a problem finding notable and relibale sources on that fact to back up the addition you want. If you do, I don't think you'll have a problem achieving consensus. Right now though, you do not have consensus. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 05:18, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
So your complaint is no sources more than anything? I would point out that there was much more "gamecruft" in the article the last time it was named good article. I think for it to be a good article, it needs to have good descriptions of everything. Quick search...Pikachu Super Smash Bros turns up 324,000 hits. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 05:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
No, that was simply one of several issues I and others mentioned above. Once again, the fact that gamecruft seeps in to the article is a perfect example as to why everyone is vigilant to such edits. Likewise, for an article to be named a good article, it needs to go through peer review - which it did, and who felt whatever you're thinking was gamecruft at the time was not. Likewise, standards evolve and become more complete over time, which is why even articles previously at GA status are rewritten and resubmitted after time. And just because you feel adding such material makes a good article, does not mean it falls under Wikipedia policy and guidelines as to what makes good content, nor the consensus of what makes good content. Likewise, a google hits search is not considered a valid reference or statement of notability. Again, you've given nothing except continued circular reasoning the same "well it exists here" arguments. And I see you doing that time and again in all your continued debates, along with the usual WP:SOAPBOX commentary about being picked on, people stalking your or "stand with me", and your continued automatic reverts of other people's reverts of your non-consensus changes. If this continues, it's going to send up a big flag for being a disrutive editor. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 05:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm throwing in the towel on this one, to please you. Why the heck have you been reading my other edits? They are completely ungermaine. Every edit I have ever made I have done with the confidence that it is making Wikipedia better (just on a few of them, some people disagree). "Continued and automatic" cannot be used to discribe my edits. You can DE if you want. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 13:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
The Pikachu in Super Smash Bros. has been a reasonably decent character to play as in most games. Its attacks are mainly composed of electrical and normal attacks in all games. In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, its Final Smash is a release of its electricity. There is lore that the Brawl Pikachu was the Melee Pichu.GoogleplexPlus (talk) 02:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Magnetism Silliness[edit]

How come "the presence of a strong magnetic field, causes an illness with flu-like symptoms" but also "Pikachu tend to gather in areas with high amounts of thunderstorm activity"? I'm not arguing that this is not accurate infromation from the francise, but I am arguing from basic physics. Electricity and magnetism are strogly bonded - you cannot have one without the other. Thunderstorms have a megnetic field and magnetic fields affect electrical ones. Either Pikachi should be equally attacted by both or made ill by both, this is GCSE level physics! Kennifred (talk) 15:00, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

It is saying that if electricity is built up, a Pikachu can get sick. Magnetism might suppress Pikachu's ability to let it's electricity flow. Blake (Talk·Edits) 16:07, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Some real animals have an effect like this. (Not using electricity, of course!) They are attracted to it up to a point, then become ill or repulsed if there is too much. Like dogs and chocolate, or people for that matter. Dude1818 (talk) 20:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Just because they get sick from it doesn't mean they don't tend to do it anyway... 99.225.16.250 (talk) 19:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

deeper vandalism[edit]

I was comparing older versions of Pikachu, and there's some vandal text in there: "Pikachu are on average 1' 4" tall and are very playful creatures." For those who are watching this page (not me), please root it out and make sure nothing was lost. Cheers, tedder (talk) 03:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I reverted that when the editor put it on, but another editor reinstated it for whatever reason. I think it's more of a badly-written good-faith edit than an attempt to vandalize. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 03:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I undid some of the vandalism you pointed out. I think most of it gets in because someone makes a vandal edit, then someone makes a normal edit, so we dont see the vandal edit on our watchlists. Most of the time I try and look at history though. Blake (Talk·Edits) 03:21, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Why doesn't Pikachu evolve?[edit]

Could a knowledgeable editor add to the article why Ash's Pikachu never evolves? Comet Tuttle (talk) 17:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

From what I remember, it never wanted to, It went so far as to knock a thunder stone out of Ash's hand after a difficult battle. I can't remember the name of the episode, but I know it was one of the early ones... DarkNightWolf (T|C|M) 14:44, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Working on the basics, will need references, as I haven't seen the episode for years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NightwolfAA2k5/Pikachu DarkNightWolf (T|C|M) 09:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
It was the one with Lt. Surge and his Raichu. dude1818 (talk) 23:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Just reference the episode.<ref name="Electric Shock Showdown">{{cite episode| title = Electric Shock Showdown | series = [[Pokémon (anime)|Pokémon]] | credits = Atsuhiro Tomioka (writer) | network = Various | airdate = September 25, 1998 | season = [[List of Pokémon: Indigo League episodes|Indigo League]]|number = 14}}</ref> Blake (Talk·Edits) 04:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Pikachu[edit]

I love Pikachu! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.145.27.99 (talk) 04:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC) what was the point of saying that? 24.187.191.151 (talk) 00:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't mean to be bitey but Talk Pages aren't for general chat. Cobalion. Setting Justice everywhere. (talk) 19:10, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Pikachu cannot be found in the wild in Black/White and Black/White 2[edit]

The video games section that mentions that Pikachu is found naturally in the wild in every game needs to be modified with that bit of info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.217.201.98 (talk) 17:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

How about after you beat the Champion and gain the National Pokedex? Cobalion. Setting Justice everywhere. (talk) 18:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Nope, even then you can't catch it.--90.203.211.188 (talk) 11:23, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Mascot?[edit]

The article is semi-protected so I cannot edit it as a hobby Wikipedia user and not as an editor, but the intro paragraph lists Pikachu and...Charizard? as the official mascots of Pokemon. While Charizard was the mascot of Red Version, it is not the franchise representative by any stretch and should be removed from that part of the description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.69.223.128 (talk) 13:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I removed it. You should consider creating an account! Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:45, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I recently just changed it to "major character" as he is more renowned than most Pokemon, but I don't think "mascot" is suitable unless for a certain version of Pokemon game. ShawntheGod (talk) 07:04, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Citation Removal[edit]

I would suggest removing citation 56 because there aren't any reasons written on why they hate Pikachu. It's just Pikachu "sucks" for no reason and that "Hello Kitty would kick his butt." Not very explanatory, is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.14.222.121 (talk) 14:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the source doesn't state very many reasons for its disdain of Pikachu. Does anybody know if AskMen is a reliable source? Bananasoldier (talk) 18:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
No. The AskMen reference also has false information in their article and Wikipedia contradicts it. I suggest we should remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.140.217.169 (talk) 20:42, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

2014 mascot[edit]

I'm not sure if this is worthy of inclusion, but I've found that Pikachu is being chosen for the Mascot of Japan's team for the 2014 Fifa World Cup as seen here.

http://soccerly.com/article/salvadorborboa/pikachu-named-japans-official-mascot-in-brazil-2014-world-cup

2.223.97.5 (talk) 03:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, thanks! Supernerd11 :D Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 19:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)