Talk:Pillory

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I do not agree with this definition of pillory, but I'm not english native speaker. For me, a pillori is not that wooden device but is a column where the criminal was bound. see "pilori" in the french wikipedia [1] .

The device explained here is what is called "carcan" in french and probably yoke or shackles in english.

Pilory is close to the latin word meaning"column", so please verify this info.


--- The image is very difficult to see, at that resolution it just looks like a tower. Would it make sense to use a cropped version that shows the man in the pillory (which is visible if you click on the image and view it at full size), or something? --babbage 15:46, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Image[edit]

I don't suppose there's another one available to show someone in the pillory? The one being used right now, of a teen girl in a skirt, is a little creepily BDSM...--98.204.88.187 (talk) 14:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Confusing[edit]

I find this article confusing: -What is the relation between the terms pillory and stocks? -Are the Other humiliation devices types of pillories? If not then I think that this information should be moved to another article. ike9898 21:35, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

  • Indeed, the terminology, as often with punitive devices, is rather confusing and overlaps are frequent. The idea of a merger of similar devices such as pranger into pillory seems sensible. Whether this should also apply to stocks, usually far less elaborate and tying the feet, not arms or neck, is less obvious. Fastifex 20:30, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
    • I'd like to see that in the article. For example a sentence noting the overlap, and saying that the difference between the two usually implies tying the feet aswell. 139.222.224.70 (talk) 02:51, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Verb[edit]

Does this mean to imply that the term "pilloried" means humiliated? -Ash (April 2006)

  • yes, the verb to pillory, no longer commonly needed for the physical punishment, remains alive in the figurative sense To expose to ridicule and (usually verbal) abuse. Equivalents in other languages exist, even clearer emphasizing the humiliating nature, and will be worked in the article. Fastifex 10:26, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Merging pranger into pillory.[edit]

The Pillory in England is the standing version of the stocks. In the stock the offender is seated with their feet and hands trapped in the holes. In the Pillory the offender is standing with their head and hands trapped. Whether the punishments then meted out to them differ, I do not know. The stocks are the older of the two devices though.

I dont think the topics pranger and pillory should be merged, they are different devices and a link should suffice.

They're all seperate yet simular devices and should have thier own pages Kejoxen 22:39, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I was bold and removed merge tag though they surved similar purposes the two are substancially different in the way they were made an how the were used. Gnangarra 14:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)