Talk:Pitbull (rapper)

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Notes on change from "entertainer" to "rapper"[edit]

Before going to specifics of our discussions, just a brief word about how legit a "rapper" Pitbull is. The rap community acts in disdain every time he is called a rapper, as many consider him just a pop singer churning out some words to dance songs in night venues and on radio/television. That's not rapping, they say.... Are we just fuelling the debate with calling him a rapper again, as if pouring more gasoline on the fire now that he is "officially" dubbed a rapper in Wikipedia? Now back to our basic discussion.

I notice our change came as a result of just 4 people taking part in a very brief discussion, and with a 3-1 decision now Pitbull is suddenly just a rapper, not an entertainer. For some he may not be a rapper anyhow as I explained. For others, he may be a rapper, yes, but more than "just a rapper". I am of the opinion of this category. Yes, he is a rapper, but he is also a singer, a songwriter, an entrepreneur, a record producer. The change couldn't come at a worse time for us when we now know he is acting voice over in Epic (film) playing some character. Why was this never brought up in the discussions? Pitbull also acted in a movie called Blood Money directed by Gregory McQualter. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1753521/ See article titled "Pitbull Makes His Acting Debut in Blood Money, a Hyperviolent Shaolin Drug Flick Set in Miami" http://thephoenixmag.com/pitbull-blood-money-miami/ review http://www.kungfucinema.com/reviews/review-blood-money-2012 . The only opposing view by User:GroveGuy is wise, right to the point and predicted all this. "We already went through the process of changing it from rapper to entertainer in November 2011; why change it back? Also, the man might change his focus from rapping to dancing. Entertainer covers it all. Leave it the way it is." Now his comments will haunt you with revelations of being an actor in two films. Plus he has expressed desire for a lead role in a majour film...

There's nothing wrong with entertainer. We have Usher (entertainer), not Usher singer. We have Chris Brown (American entertainer), we have Madonna (entertainer). Pitbull (entertainer) as we had it since 2011 was by far more accurate than Pitbull (rapper) as per our new, and in my view, pre-mature decision. Our decision is more counter-productive than anything and creates more controversy. This decision needs to be revised. We could use Pitbull (without rapper or entertainer) for his article. The page would refer to pit bull on the top rather than pitbull being a redirected page to pit bull as we have now. Plus I am in favour of bigger discussions before such drastic controversial changes are implemented arbitrarily after just "nominal" discussions that do not discuss the more complicated issues beyond a a renaming. werldwayd (talk) 11:12, 29 June 2013 (UTC) werldwayd (talk) 11:14, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

  • I would have no problem with Pitbull (singer) if we doubt his rapping credentials, and I suspect the supporters of the previous RM would feel the same way. It may have not been the most robust discussion, but it certainly beats the previous RM that moved the page from (rapper) to (entertainer) in the first place. --BDD (talk) 00:01, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Pitbull (singer) won't do as he is doing a lot of acting too. I think Pitbull (entertainer) is still the best alternative. werldwayd (talk) 19:11, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Do we have consensus for moving it back to "entertainer"? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 21:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

There is no real personal life section[edit]

Pitbull has two children with someone named Barbara Alba. One of them is a son. This is according to, http://www.latina.com/entertainment/music/5-things-you-didnt-know-about-pitbull#axzz2ZwcRvBHw TBWarrior720 (talk) 07:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Before adding something like this, it would help to know the names of his children. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I don't believe that info from the source you quote, Latina.com, is reliable. It seems to be a gossip sheet. See WP:NOTRELIABLE - GroveGuy (talk) 09:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


the line about his mother kicking him out as did his father "before him" sounds wrong, should it be "before her"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.172.38.98 (talk) 19:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Birth date[edit]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2100284/?ref_=nv_sr_1 says that Pitbull's birth date is January 14, 1981. Where'd you get your information from? 151.213.61.44 (talk) 03:59, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

IMDb is not considered a reliable source. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:02, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Associated acts[edit]

Almost a year ago, I removed Christina Aguilera as an associated act, as she did not meet the criteria of an associated act. I noted in my edit summary that the list should be trimmed but since then the associated acts inflation has worsened.

Could we cut the list down, please? Starting a discussion because it's annoying cutting down inflated associated acts lists to comply with the standards only to get reverted. Thanks. Acalamari 18:37, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

The only thing I'm not sure of is who to cut from the list aside from Christina. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 18:41, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Pitbull vs. Pit bull vs Pitbull (rapper)[edit]

What do we think about taking the page Pitbull, which is currently a redirect to Pit bull, and instead have it point to Pitbull (rapper)? I am cleaning up a whole bunch of incoming links right now that point to Pitbull, but are supposed to be pointing to the musician. We could then put a {{for|}} note at the top of that page, for people who are looking for the article about the actual dog breed. (I am also posting this question at Talk:Pit bull. Any thoughts on this? KConWiki (talk) 01:08, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2014[edit]

The second paragraph in the "2006–07: El Mariel and The Boatlift" section begins with a period. 216.163.247.1 (talk) 14:57, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Thanks for pointing that out. - Arjayay (talk) 15:47, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2014[edit]

ANNAWHITESIDES555 (talk) 02:28, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Please specify what you want changed in your request. —C.Fred (talk) 02:30, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Name of Christina[edit]

please change Christina Aguillera to Christina Aguilera

Yes check.svg Done{{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 00:32, 29 November 2014 (UTC)