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Did you know... that the Field Music album Plumb was nominated for the 2012 Mercury Prize, even though the band thought that their odds were "minimal to nil"?
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:28, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Field Music album Plumb was nominated for the 2012 Mercury Prize, even though the band thought their odds were "minimal to nil"?
ALT1:... that the Field Music album Plumb has so many falsetto vocals that a reviewer said it was as if the band "will settle for nothing less than the highest possible notes"?
5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self-nominated at 01:29, 19 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]
This looks pretty interesting, so I'll grab this for review (will start ASAP, maybe after dinner). mike•owendiscuss 18:06, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Both of those hooks are brilliant (clearly sourced in the article), but I'm concerned over the copyvio detector's results. If you can get it under 40% I will be more than happy to approve this. mike•owendiscuss 18:48, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks MikeOwen, I will take a look at this when I can (I'm at work, currently). But quick question: could the copyvio detector results simply stem from the fact that the article makes heavy use of quotations, particularly when it comes to review blurbs in the Reception section and, in the 70% example you cite above, direct quotes from Q&A interviews? — HunterKahn 20:22, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's partly it, but it also has a fair bit to do with large quotations from interviews as well. My advice would be to reword some of the sections where the percentage is quite high or to remove somewhat less important bits. Some sources are only i little bit above 40%, so reducing those won't be too hard. Hope you have a great evening! mike•owendiscuss 20:52, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
MikeOwen I've gone through and reduced the amount of direct quotations in the article, of which there were many. I've gotten all of them down to under 40% in the Copyvio detector, except for three that are just slightly above 40%, but they are only that high because each of those three has a quotation box in the story. I don't think I can get it below 40% without removing the quote boxes altogether, which I'd rather not do because I think it would reduce the quality of the article, so I'm hoping you'll find it acceptable as it currently is? — HunterKahn 00:00, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hunter Kahn I think that it's okay now, so I've passed it. Thanks a lot, I really like both of those hooks. mike•owendiscuss 08:20, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Famous Hobo do you still plan to review this, or should I ask someone else to take it? — HunterKahn 20:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hunter Kahn, Famous Hobo hasn't edited on Wikipedia for three weeks. Would you like me to try to find another reviewer, or would you prefer to do it yourself? Thanks, and sorry for the delay. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:12, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Either is fine with me, BlueMoonset. Thank you for the offer. :) What would be the correct way to go about this? Should I remove the "Review" tag this article's listing on the WP:GAN page? Or should I mark it as seeking a second opinion? Or some other method? — HunterKahn 17:50, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hunter Kahn, just leave it as it is, and I'll see if the person I have in mind can take this on. If that doesn't work, then we'll go to plan B (which is the 2ndopinion status). BlueMoonset (talk) 18:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Plumb has been described as a 'melting pot of genres, influences, and styles'..." There is a source here – is this definitely mentioned in the body?
Yes it is, in the reviews section. The only reason I use the citation here as well is because it's a direct quotation. — HunterKahn 21:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"...incorporating elements from each of the Brewis brothers' earlier side projects, including the funk style of Peter Brewis' The Week That Was, and the new wave and synth rock of David Brewis' School of Language." This is quite a mouthful! I would remove the specific phrase "each of the Brewis brothers' earlier side projects, including" to get "incorporating elements from the funk style of Peter Brewis' The Week That Was, and the new wave and synth rock of David Brewis' School of Language." Or something like that.
Good call; reworded along these lines. — HunterKahn 21:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"...and dissatisfaction with consumerism and other aspects of the modern world." Change the second "and" to something like "as well as".
"...the band was attracted to because of the political, economic, environmental implications of such stations." There should be an "and" after the word "economic".
"David Brewis said the individual tracks are modular and shift rapidly between sections in a more linear way than normally found on a pop album." The surname can be removed – they have already been introduced as Peter and David. This comes up in a couple of other places too.
The way I had been doing it is I referred to them as "David Brewis" or "Peter Brewis" at the beginning of a given section, and then by first name only in each subsequent reference within that section. But if you disagree with that, I can remove the last names but all from the very first references in the body of the article. — HunterKahn 21:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Plumb incorporated elements from the side projects of each of the Brewis brothers' side projects, including the funk style of Peter Brewis' The Week That Was and the new wave and synth rock of David Brewis' School of Language." The side projects of the side projects? Remove the duplicate.
Oops, LOL. Fixed. — HunterKahn 21:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Lavery described the album as an 'existential crisis in a post-industrial north-east town', and, likewise..." I would replace the "and" with a semicolon – the sentence will flow better.
"Lemmon wrote the album addresses themes of..." Is this meant to be a quote or is it saying that it was the way the album was written (if that makes sense)?
The latter, I think. He is identifying themes that the album addresses. — HunterKahn 21:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"...to mean that to have more money is to have status ... It's become..." I'm not a professional quoter, but I think square brackets need to be used between the "...".
Note to Thatoneweirdwikier, I have to stop here for now but will finish the rest either tonight or early tomorrow. Thank you! — HunterKahn 21:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Prior to the recording of Plumb, Field Music had shared studio space for 10 years with the band The Futureheads. It was called 8 Music, part of an arts cooperative. That studio became unavailable after the community building in which it was located was closed down, due to the Recession. So Field Music built their own new studio..." These few sentences feel awkward. I would suggest a rewrite.
I made an attempt at a rewrite, let me know if that is better. — HunterKahn 20:56, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"This section is too small. I think it should be combined with the critical reception to create a "Reception" section, with "Critical reception" and "Commercial performance".
I think I've made the change you suggested, but please make sure I did it correctly? — HunterKahn 20:56, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"...on 1 November 2012, the Official Charts Company announced Plumb had experienced a 17% increase in sales following the nomination announcement." We already know there was a boost, so I would consider merging this and the previous part of the sentence (before the semicolon) together.
Does the new wording work? — HunterKahn 20:56, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This section is incredibly long – arguably way longer than need be. I would recommend a trim-down of the reviews.
I trimmed it a bit. I realize it's still a bit long and probably wouldn't pass muster at FAC like this, but I think it's sufficient for GA now. But if you think I should trim it further, let me know! 21:06, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Hey, apologies Thatoneweirdwikier, personal circumstances have made it difficult to find time for Wikipedia recently, but I'll try to get to this in the next two or three days... — HunterKahn 11:27, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Considering Hunter Kahn has not edited for a while, I will give them seven more days to begin their answering of critiques, otherwise I will fail the article (with no offense given to Hunter Kahn). User:Thatoneweirdwikier | Conversations and Contributions 21:33, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Thatoneweirdwikier. I apologize for my inactivity; some personal issues kept me off Wikipedia much longer than I expected, but I am back now and plan to start working on this no later than tomorrow. I appreciate your patience! — HunterKahn 21:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think I've responded to everything Thatoneweirdwikier, but let me know if you have any follow-ups. Thanks! — HunterKahn 21:06, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Both of those hooks are brilliant (clearly sourced in the article), but I'm concerned over the copyvio detector's results. If you can get it under 40% I will be more than happy to approve this. mike•owen discuss 18:48, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Nothing to comment on here – good job!
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