Talk:Pneumonia

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References

I have removed all but one reference from the article as they were improperly cited and linked. Will work through them and add more.

Stored here for the moment.

1. ^ National Guideline Clearinghouse. Guideline: Adult preventive health care: immunizations. In: National Guideline Clearinghouse (NGC) [website]. Rockville (MD), ©1998-2004. Cited August 30, 2005. Available: http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=5616&nbr=3786&string

1. ^ Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. United States, regarding vaccination with the pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine (PDF)

1. Bartlett JG, Dowell SF, Mandell LA, File TM Jr, et al: Practice guidelines for the management of community-acquired pneumonia in adults. Clin Infect Dis. 2000;31:347-82.

Definition of Pneumonia

I think the opening paragraph is suffering from severe over-inclusivitis, as well as dodgy medical terminology. In common usage, and most medical definitions, "pneumonia" is an infection of the lung tissue (more accurately, pulmonary parynchyma) (Harrison's, British Thoracic Society Guidelines etc.). Chemical & vascular injuries etc. get labelled pneumonia occasionally (and usually inaccurately), but are more appropriately regarded and classified as pneumonitis. A non-medic coming to this page almost certainly wants information about bog standard lung infections, and can be directed to the rarer stuff with wikilinks. At the risk of causing a stir, (and apologising in advance for accidently stuffing up the references) I'll have a crack at the opening paragraph a bit later this evening.TamePhysician (talk) 06:15, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

One cannot come along and remove all the references. Thus have returned them.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:22, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

What do you all think about moving the ==Classification== section up to the top (or right after the symptoms section) and expanding it to address this issue? WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:35, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Agree that there are usage/semantic issues at play, and that conceptually infection is paramount attribution from both statistical and usage perspectives. That said, have gently edited to be c/w the various nuances that are in common use, and entirely c/w with cited refs. Let me know if I should address this more deeply.FeatherPluma (talk) 23:40, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi everybody, at the end, Pneumonia is an inflammation or an infection? or an inflammation caused by an infection?Reza luke (talk) 11:09, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

The section on diagnosis (ie a working case definition), and also on pathophysiological definition needs re-working - in my opinion, completely. I will think about content, but people will need to be ready to let go (and perhaps re-use) some references.BCameron54 23:53, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

What are you proposing we change it too? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

TOC Left

I recommend adding the TOC Left template to this article, it would help the feng shui of the article. Instead of just doing it and having Doc James revert it I figure I would post here and see if I am alone in desiring the page to flow better. :-) Je.rrt (talk) 18:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank Je :-) I believe consistency in style is important between pages. Thus thing we should keep the TOC in the standard style. If all pages where to be changed that would be a different matter. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:05, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

The reason the TOC left exists is for huge TOC's like the Pneumonia page. The only reason I could see it being inappropriate is if in lower resolutions (which I have not yet tested) it makes the text all bunched together or causes the flow to be awkward. :-) Je.rrt (talk) 07:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Or a wide screen leads to bunching.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

FYI, I just previewed the article on my 1440x900 resolution with {{TOC left|limit=3}}, and there were significant issues with the symptoms diagram and frequency table creating about 500 vertical pixels of whitespace between the end of the prose in the "Signs and symptoms" section and the "Cause" header (with the diagram and table on either side of that whitespace). jcgoble3 (talk) 17:54, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

So it will not improve the overall flow of the article. Thanks for testing that :) Je.rrt (talk) 18:28, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Similar articles

Hi there. the article Pneumonitis (diseaseDB 10166) need's to have been controlled. tnxReza luke (talk) 11:40, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean? --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

"present " confusion

Hello-I find some confusion around five instances of the word "present ". It seems like it needs a modifier (ie."present symptoms"). Eddiequest (talk) 12:41, 25 December 2011 (UTC)Eddiequest

Another review of kids

2011 BTS http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21903691?dopt=Abstract Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:10, 12 February 2012 (UTC)