Talk:Point Reyes National Seashore

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The McClure's beach photo is now confirmed as GFDL. seglea 20:47, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

nearest city[edit]

what are uu talking about It's hard to be sure, but I think Novato or Petaluma might be closer to Point Reyes National Seashore than San Francisco. Does anyone have a reliable source for such information? Stepheng3 (talk) 20:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Drakes Estero oyster farm controversy[edit]

Here's a nice review of the controversy: Protecting a Bay While Treading on Truth at RealClearPolitics, May 11, 2014. Looks like it might be helpful in balancing the section, which looks rather one-sided to me. --Pete Tillman (talk) 22:27, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

That accounting is ridiculously biased, albeit apparently in a direction you agree with. How about we find neutral reliable sources to account for this issue? NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 20:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Noting the accusations of bias, let's work together to create a neutral, even-handed accounting of the dispute. I note that we don't have any quotes from defenders of the farm, so that would be a good place to start. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 20:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the lack of quotes by, or even mention of, defenders (other than Dianne Feinstein) begs for correction. However it will be hard to find neutral reliable sources, and that's because the issue has been festering for years now, and most of the published commentary on it is not neutral. I think we'll just have to make do with reliable and forget about neutral. I'll see if I can round some up. --AnotherNitPicker (talk) 06:59, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Frankly, none of the quotes are really illuminating to the particular issue, and I stripped out a number of them, replacing them with actual facts of what has transpired in the dispute. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 07:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Beautiful what you did! Now the section is neutral and both sides should be happy with it except that there is a further chapter to the Coastal Commission thing that should be mentioned. I'll see if I can dig it up. There are also a few more twists and turns in the federal courts issue that might bear mentioning.--AnotherNitPicker (talk) 16:38, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Agreed: this is a stormy issue with endless rebuttals and you've done well to pare the debate way down and stick with the actual facts of what has transpired. Re: the latest with the Coastal Commission, this report from the local paper might help. Barte (talk) 16:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Another thanks. Best to stick to facts in controversies. I pulled unbalanced as unneeded now. --Pete Tillman (talk) 03:41, 4 June 2014 (UTC)