Talk:Views of Lyndon LaRouche and the LaRouche movement

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*Talk:Views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche_and_the_LaRouche_movement/Archive_11#The_Queen_and_drug_trafficking

The last discussion of this issue was archived before we finished with it. Is there anything more to add to the sources page before we start drafting new text for this section?   Will Beback  talk  11:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC) Comment moved to #The Queen and drug trafficking 3   Will Beback  talk  23:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Actually most of the sources are opinion pieces at best, and not factual sources per se on LaRouche or his "movements" at all. And a lot of this "article" is simply piling on "stuff" instead of restricting it to actual solid material. Adding "stuff" on top of "stuff" is iffy for any BLP article. Cheers. Collect (talk) 11:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Exactly. Let's clean out the junk and add solidly sourced, NPOV material.   Will Beback  talk  11:54, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
If you have comments about specific sources you think think we should exclude, that's fine too.   Will Beback  talk  11:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Start with every single "book review" and the like. And all the "but the person had a beard, so he must have been LaRouche" stuff. Add in the stuff which only serves to broadcast some of the wilder accusations. Cut the article down to about 10K. Cheers. Recall, I regard articles on small groups as properly being covered by BLP, and all opinions in such should be clearly labelled as opinions by specific people at best. Collect (talk) 12:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Huh? This thread is about the Queen of England material. If you have any specific remarks on this topic, please add them.   Will Beback  talk  12:21, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
You asked a question. I anse=wered it. I am sorry if the official rule of this thread "This thread is about the Queen of England material. disapproves of more general noting that the entire article has serious BLP issues. Cheers. Collect (talk) 13:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
If you want this thread to be about your general concerns about the article then that's fine. I can start a separate thread to talk about the drafting. Go ahead and say what you want to say.   Will Beback  talk  22:05, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
AFAICT, you have no special authority on this article, Will. Nor any special authority to declare that you will open a fresh thread just for me. Cheers - I fear that your attitude here is not what I would wish for in a collegial discussion. Collect (talk) 22:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
It's kind of standard practice to keep a thread on a topic. But sometimes new topics come up. That's fine. We can discuss the overall article in this thread if that's what you want. You wrote, "Start with every single "book review" and the like". I'm not sure what you mean by that. I only see one section that could be called a book review, "Dialectical Economics: An Introduction to Marxist Political Economy". Do you think we should get rid of that?   Will Beback  talk  22:56, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I am glad we have someone to make sure that no thread goes off his stated desired topic. Reminds me a bit of Junior High, in fact. Cheers. Collect (talk) 22:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm glad you're glad. Now could you please explain your concern about the book reviews?   Will Beback  talk  23:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

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The last discussion of this issue was archived before we finished with it. Is there anything more to add to the sources page before we start drafting new text for this section?   Will Beback  talk  11:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] For discussion

For the decade prior to the criminal trials of the late 1980s, one of LaRouche's closest aides and his paid security consultant was Roy Frankhouser, a former Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon and American Nazi Party member, and a government informant.[1] This is irrelevant to LaRouche's views. LaRouche's relationship to Frankhouser is explored in depth at Lyndon LaRouche#1974: Contacts with far right groups, intelligence gathering and it is clear that LaRouche was interested in Frankhouser as a government infiltrator of right-wing groups. It is misleading to imply that LaRouche felt any sympathy or agreement for the right-wing groups. Waalkes (talk) 23:18, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Cla68 (talk) 23:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)


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