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Wow, this article is a bit of a mess. I can't do anything about the citations, but I do recommend that it gets some pictures. I suggest Lula da Silva of Brazil ([1]), one of the most popular politicians on Earth, at least according to Barack Obama; and Hitler ([2]), generally accepted to be one of the least popular. (The links are internal, I just couldn't find a way to link to them without awkwardness) Sheavsey33 (talk) 05:22, 3 March 2011 (UTC)


Is anyone going to be bitter if I remove the entire criticism section? The whole thing is unsourced, in some cases with cite needed tags going back to 2008. Yes, everyone knows politicians are criticized. But as the article stands right now, the criticism listed is arbitrary (meaning that what specifically is criticize seems to be chosen at whim), unverified, and in some cases is probably original research. As such, I think we are far better off removing the section until such time as sourced information can be put into its place. Thoughts, anyone? Qwyrxian (talk) 06:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Did Professor Paul Finn (a Cambridge Professor) ever play hurling? I would be astonished to find that he did, which would seem to suggest that the Paul Finn linked to in that section is in fact a different person. (talk) 17:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Fixed. Thanks for noticing. --Old Moonraker (talk) 20:58, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Unreferenced section -- Considered a politician[edit]

Rewrote section and added references. The term politician can have very broad definitions. I will wait a reasonable amount of time before removing tag. Phoenician Patriot (talk) 16:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Considered a Politician[edit]

The current version of the article says:

People who are politically active, especially in party politics. A person holding or seeking political office whether elected or appointed, whether professionally or otherwise. Positions range from Homeowner associations[1] and block watches[2] to executive, legislative and judicial offices of state and national governments.[3] Some law enforcement officers, such as sheriffs, are considered to be politicians.

The source ( cited for Homeowner associations says:

Homeowners' Association
(n) Homeowners Association is the  association of persons formed by the residents of a housing locality to address their common problems and  issues connected with their residence and living in that area. Such associations generally does crime watch, entertainment, sanitary activities etc were a collective action is required

and the source ( cited for block watches says:

neighborhood watch
a neighborhood surveillance program or group in which residents keep watch over one another's houses, patrol the streets, etc., in an attempt to prevent crime.

These sources do not substantiate the assertions made that members of homeowners' associations and of neighborhood block watch units are considered politicians. These sources merely provide definitions for the terms.

Members of homeowners' associations and of neighborhood watch units are not generally considered politicians (although they might be considered politicians with regard to the activities of the local communities in some circumstances). The article's sentence needs to be better sourced, or those two claims I've referred to here should be removed. Dezastru (talk) 19:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

A Homeowner association is a corporation formed by a real estate developer for the purpose of marketing, managing, and selling of homes and lots in a residential subdivision. It grants the developer privileged voting rights in governing the association, while allowing the developer to exit financial and legal responsibility of the organization, typically by transferring ownership of the association to the homeowners after selling off a predetermined number of lots. It allows a civil municipality to increase its tax base, but without requiring it to provide equal services to all of its citizens. Membership in the homeowners association by a residential buyer is typically a condition of purchase; a buyer isn't given an option to reject it. Some homeowner associations hire and retain property management companies. The board of directors is responsible for the retention of these companies.

They sound like politicians to me. (talk) 13:11, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I know this is old, but I just saw it now, and fully agree—I've removed those 2 from the article. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:50, 25 November 2012 (UTC)