Talk:Poole

John Bastard 1746 House

John Bastard's date of birth (1817) the reference to him designing a house built in 1746 and the fact that he lived in Newcastle Upon Tyne lead me to think that this link is to a different person of the same name and that the link should be removed.

The link was almost cerainly refering to John Bastard - which is why I am here - to see if their are any natives of Poole here who could find a photograph of Sir Peter Thompson's 1746 town house designed by John Bastard for the Bastard brothers page. I think it may today be called poole College. Thanks Giano 09:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I have lots of photos of all the old buildings in Poole. I may have one of the house but dont realise it, can you describe it? and I can upload if I have it. LordHarris 17:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

That is the problem I don't know what it looks like, I'm hundreds of miles from Poole, and can't find a picture on the internet either, but it is mentioned on Poole's tourist site (The town centre has many of the old buildings put up by the wealthy merchants, such as the 1761 market house and Sir Peter Thompson's 1746 town house designed by John Bastard), but only vaguely - it would be great if you do have something. Pevsner describes it as poole's finest house and says it is sited north of New orchard Giano 18:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Well I managed to find the street the house is in (Market Street) which is northwest of Old Orchard street, but actually south of new orchard street. I found this when I stumbled across this article -

Lulworth Castle. It details the brothers extensive developments of Lulworth castle, which isnt mentioned on the brothers article either (if you cant access the article I can always email it to you). It cites the house in market street but alas no photo. Market street itself is quite small and theres only perhaps half a dozen buildings in it including a pub and a few new buildings. There is one building however, most likely the Bastard building on the right of the photo (though I cant say for sure). Sorry couldnt be of more help. LordHarris 19:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Historic Old Poole - View from the Old Town Hall down Market Street

That is great, the work at Lulworth Castle is briefly mentioned on the page, but I don't have access to Justor, so if you could wiki-mail that to me it would be great. Regarding your foto, my guess is that the building on the extreme right, is the one I am after, as it fits with Pevsner's description - but that would be own research (sod!) we need some proof - that is the one - any ideas? I really appreciate your interest here Giano 20:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I had an idea and checked the national database of listed buildings at English heritage. http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/search/details.aspx?pid=2&id=412527 - is the town house. Its in Market Street but just behind where I was standing when I took the above photo. I havent got one of it myself but I will try and take one next time Im near there. The website has a photo (but its copyrighted) and it has some detail on the house and Bastards/Thomspon. At least you know where and what it looks like!LordHarris 20:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Poole Harbour

>> Poole Harbour (said to be the second largest natural harbour in the world after Sydney) Doesn't something like this need a reference? I've also heard Halifax, NS referred to as 'the second-largest natural harbour in the world', and a quick looksee on the 'net brings http://experts.about.com/e/n/na/Natural_harbor.htm with a list of a goodly number of claimants. --Jadawin 13:07, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Regional Gross Value Added

I removed the RGVA stuff because I have no idea what it means or how it improves the article for the reader. It has been put back in by someone else. Does anyone know what this stuff means? If they do, how can the material be made understandable to a reader in a far-off country. I believe the adder of RGWA is Anwar sadaat so I have put the following message on his talk page.

Anwar, some material you have added to many articles is puzzling me. I'm talking about the "Regional Gross Value Added" stuff. I'm an intelligent person (university degree) and I have absolutely no idea what that stuff means. It does not seem to me that it adds anything to the articles. In fact I think the opposite, it makes the reader stop and think "what ever is this!". Sorry, nothing against you, but I just can't see why the material is there. Can I remove it from any article I see it in or do you want it put to a vote? Humble apologies if you are not the person who added the material. - Adrian Pingstone 08:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

South West Coast Path

The South West Coast Path starts at Poole Harbour, and there has been a proposal made that its article should be rewritten. At present it is largely long lists of towns, villages, and places of interest. If you can help turn these lists into prose, could you join in at Talk:South West Coast Path. Thanks. Geof Sheppard 13:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Expansion to culture section

I think that the article could benefit from details of events on Poole Quay such as the car nights and fireworks. They attract several thousand people and are a big event during the summer for Poole. Maybe also add other events such as the market in the town? Thoughts? Also I think the population section should be merged with the demography section? The article is on its way to FA! Good work. LordHarris 09:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes good ideas. I have removed the population section and created a new population table in the demography section. Other cultural events that could be added are Harry Paye charity fun day on the quay and the 'Beating of the Bounds'. BarretBonden (talk) 12:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

History section

I have rewritten the history section, adding a few details that were missing such as Poole’s role in the Civil War and the importance of the Newfoundland trade, plus I’ve added a couple of images and extra references. Hopefully it is an improvement, although it might be a bit too long and may need some more editing to get it to good article standards. BarretBonden (talk) 22:03, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

This article has been promoted to GA status. An archive of the review can be found at Talk:Poole/GA1. -epicAdam (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Well done guys - a great article. :) --Jza84 |  Talk  11:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Education

The education section currently says there are 8 middle schools, but indicates that they are all 8-12 middles. Isn't Broadstone a 9-13 middle? I'd presume, therefore, that there is at least one 4-9 First School. Could someone locally clarify the point? Tafkam (talk) 19:21, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

The age ranges are just examples but I don‘t think its necessary for them to be included. I'll remove them from the section and modify the List of schools in Poole to include more detail about pupil ages. BarretBonden (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Poole

Hello, just to ask, what are you current plans for the Poole article. Have you considered nominating Poole for WP:Featured Article status yet? If not what do you think needs improving or expanding? Perhaps I can assist you? LordHarris 16:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I considered nominating the article for FA shortly after it had been peer reviewed, but I felt that the prose needed a thorough copy edit first. I wasn't able to find anyone available to do this though so I've stopped working on the article for now. I was considering summarising the 'Landmarks' section, but any additional input and improvements to the article would be good. BarretBonden (talk) 17:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking the same, I certainly think that in most places it comes up to FA standard. Additionally, might we be able to make Dorset a Good/Featured Topic eventually? It certainly has a number of great articles (Dorset itself, Poole, Weymouth, Portland). Your thoughts on this would be appreciated. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 17:37, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your praise of the article. I would love to get this to FA and I may get round to working on this page again in the near future, but FAC is tough and I don't really have the motivation to go through the process right now. What articles would a Good/Featured topic for Dorset involve? Just the major towns of the county? Unfortunately, looking at Dorset, I'm pretty sure it would fail a FAR in the state it is in at the moment. BarretBonden (talk) 00:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Eventually being the optimum word there. Naturally a lot further work needs to take place before that momumental moment! Still it's off to a reasonable start, and I endeavour to promote Bournemouth to a GA alongside this one. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 22:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Transport

I've taken the following paragraph out of the transport section because the only source given (http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/Library/PDF/Residents/Local_TRansport_Plan/LTP2_Pt2.pdf) does not appear to contain most of the information given. I've not found any alternative sources yet, but in the meantime if anyone else does, please add this back to the article. Barret (talk) 13:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Despite having a good network of dual carriageway standard road serving the town centre and Canford Heath areas, Poole suffers from a missing strategic link with the rest of the region's road network. For decades, a strip of land running from the Alderney Roundabout (at the current end of the Canford Way dual carriageway) has been reserved through the Bourne Valley to the Boundary Road Roundabout near the University. There is also land reserved to link Canford Way to the current terminus of the A338 Wessex Way at Bournemouth West Roundabout. These projects are known as the 'Wallisdown Relief Road' and 'Branksome Relief Road' respectively. In the 1980s and 1990s, Dorset County and Bournemouth Borough Council made several attempts to construct the link roads, modifying the designs several times to minimise the projected environmental damage, but they were eventually discarded from the local transport plans in 1997, against the wishes of Bournemouth Borough Council. In its LTP 2006-2011 (Local Transport Plan) , Bournemouth Borough Council notes that the existing primary route connecting Poole to Bournemouth (Wallisdown Road A3049) is so badly congested that bus companies are finding it impossible to keep to their timetables. The LTTP (Long Term Transport Plan 2011-2026) for the conurbation acknowledges that either one of the missing relief corridors, or hugely costly on-line road widening of Wallisdown Road, will be 'unavoidable' if the Council is to maintain fluidity on the public transport network and support Poole's economy beyond the immediate locality.

Branksome a little known suburb of Poole, Dorset

We live in Branksome West, right on the border of Parkstone on the main Ashley Road, Poole, Dorset. For some time now we have been trying to find out some local history of our immediate area. We have visited the local museum and library but there are very few photographs and recorded history about the area and wondered if there was anyone out there who could add to what we have found out so far. Branksome Pottery, in my opinion the finest bone china pottery I have ever seen, was once based Where the New John Lewis at Home development is, right by the Pottery junction roundabout and the clay was dug from large pits sited atthe now industrial site just of Alder Road opposite Branksome Recreation grounds. I can not personally varify this location as very little is known about this area. but I do know that the clay for the Branksome China, also Came from Clay pits and Quarries, in Wareham and Poole. See Blue Poole at Furzebrook near Wareham. Clay was excavated from these pits and transported across Wareham Heath by rail and loaded onto barges at Swanage. Getting back to Branksome the area. There seems to be a very large wall running along Poole Road in the facinity of St. Aldheims Church and continuing along the road in the direction of Westbourne. As I understand it from local information provided by neighbours, this wall is the only remaining part of Parkstone Villa, A Huge Edwardian Mansion House, which had extensive grounds and also site of the local "Work House."

Davis Road, just off the Ashley Road, before Pottery Junction is a quiet residential road with similar buildings all built around 1928. Originally, the area was an orchard and farmland. During a recent build we were astonished to find that the top soil in this area is only about 12 inches deep and that beneath the top soil is a huge and very deep seam of sand. This sand is of many layers including a rather thick band of blackened earth/sand which indicates that the area must have been subjected to a terrible fire in its recent history. The topography of the area, is one of heathland with pine and scrub bushes with Canford Heath looking like the nearest match as it may possibly have done before this area was developed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hivehunter (talk • contribs) 17:04, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Twin Towns Section

It is difficult to find the reference to Poole's Twin Town as it now, many local towns do have a separate twinning section and is the length of the section really the prime factor in deciding if it deserves a section to itself?Phil Whiston (talk) 14:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe there's a consensus about where to place the twinning info. There's nothing in WP:UKTOWNS apart from this brief discussion on the talk page where opinion is divided. My opinion is that it should remain in the prose of the article rather than an additional section containing just a short sentence and a single bullet list. I wasn't sure where to place twinning information when I took the article to Good Article nomination but I think I used featured articles such as Isle of Portland, Weymouth, Dorset and Oldham as a guide. Barret (talk) 11:07, 12 February 2012 (UTC)