Talk:Port and starboard

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red and green[edit]

I don't know why anyone thinks this is a good idea, but it's distracting, looks unprofessional, and doesn't serve any explanatory purpose. Do you think names of colors should be in colored letters throughout the encyclopedia, or is this a special case for some reason?Prezbo (talk) 18:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Also the manual of style] says that "Prose text should never be manually colored."Prezbo (talk) 18:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hm, alrighty then; I wasn't aware of that. Didn't help that it isn't referenced from WP:COLORS. --Cybercobra (talk) 01:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

This is a pretty poor article and this section in particular is badly written, confusing and downright wrong. The diagram shows exactly the action the give way vessel ought NOT to take; in this situation it ought to turn to starboard and pass astern of the other vessel. The statement 'the ship on the left must give way' means nothing. The left of what? The picture? The other ship? It might better be expressed as 'a vessel on a converging course with another vessel which is to port of that vessel should give way' would make more sense. Why do we need to rewrite the regulations at all though; why not simply quote IRPCS which are the clearest and most complete statement of this subject possible?Erwfaethlon (talk) 21:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The text is much too long, and stresses the least important parts. It should be something like "for vessels powered by sails only, the vessel to the port must give way by turning starboard, passing aftwards of the other vessel. This rule is especially used during sailing ship races". But my command of the English nautical language is not good enough that I would want to try to edit this article.Esben (talk) 09:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
The image should be changed to one showing the proper action. That probably means somebody has to do a new one.
I am not sure the COLREG language (which is the normative) is very clear. It is complete and non-ambiguous, but not very easy to understand. Erwfaethlon's sentence above is clearer.
Rules for sailing vessels are harder for non-sailors to understand and should perhaps be left out (the rule cited here may be wrongly quoted, it is not familiar to me).
--LPfi (talk) 17:08, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
There's no reason to have a section on the right of way of ships. It is at best a sidelight on one of many applications of the terms at hand; at worst, a confusing distraction wedged into the middle of the piece. A better place for such information is a page on sailing practices or whatnot. Jtcarpet (talk) 01:12, 7 June 2014 (UTC)