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How big is this metro area? One part of this article says that it includes parts of some counties (Skamania for one) and another part of this article says it includes all of those counties. I added up the areas of all the counties and came up with 6719 square miles total- way more than the 400-600 square miles quoted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 15:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: page not moved. Portland, Oregon is the primary topic based on population, and two dabs do not require a dab page. Hatnotes seem sufficient to resolve the issue. Miniapolis 14:58, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
While there are many claimants to the name Portland, we are not talking about Portland here but instead Portland metropolitan area, and besides the two metro areas mentioned above, how many are there? And more importantly, are any even notable, let alone notable enough to come within the debate as to primary? Aboutmovies (talk) 05:29, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Support per nom and to make naming of these more consistent. One issue with many names is that all too often the names used are not intuitive or informative for a good number of readers. The proposed change is a move in a good direction. This will not help readers who don't know what Oregon or Maine are, but it will help many others. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:09, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Oppose. So far as I can tell this is a WP:TWODABS situation between this article and Portland, Maine metropolitan area. I don't know that the Oregon article is necessarily primary, but I'm not seeing convincing evidence that it's not.--Cúchullaint/c 22:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Again, I'd have to see some evidence that this article isn't the primary "Portland metropolitan area" to support creating a two-entry dab page. If more people are looking for the Oregon metro, it should stay put; readers looking for Maine can already get there in as few clicks as they could with a dab page.--Cúchullaint/c 19:05, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
To my recollection, of all major cities of the United States, Portland, Oregon and and Portland, Maine are the two most commonly confused. Perhaps Portland, Maine is no longer of any import, but I suspect New Englanders would disagree. Buaidh 19:51, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
I mean, I'd need to see evidence (page view stats, search engine results, source comparisons, etc) that the Oregon metro isn't more prominent to support a move. The page view stats are confused due to recent moves, but they seem to suggest the Oregon article is more viewed; it's certainly the much bigger of the two and I suspect more nationally known. Folks looking for the Maine article can get there in as few clicks through a hatnote as they can through a dab page; if the Oregon article is actually primary, all a dab page would do is add another step for more readers without reducing steps for anyone.--Cúchullaint/c 20:42, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Buaidh, since you've posted notes about this discussion to various Maine talk pages may I ask that you extend the same courtesy to Oregon editors, considering that this is actually an Oregon article?--Cúchullaint/c 15:05, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
This is an Oregon article that may create confusion for users seeking the other famous Portland. I have no skin in this game. I don't live within a thousand kilometers of either city. I just don't feel civic boosterism should be allowed to confuse users. Yours aye, Buaidh 16:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
If you have no skin in the game I don't know why you wouldn't bring this up with all affected users, especially those who may have something to say about the article you're trying to move.--Cúchullaint/c 16:58, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Never mind, I went ahead and did it.--Cúchullaint/c 17:07, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Comment: the proposed title misses the closing comma after the state – like "Portland, Oregon, metropolitan area" – per WP:Basic copyediting, section Punctuation. HandsomeFella (talk) 22:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Does not apply. If you are writing a sentence, Portland, Oregon, one of the largest metropolitan areas, a comma is needed. Portland, Oregon metropolitan area does not. Apteva (talk) 03:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
That is against the naming convention. TBrandley 03:20, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Support There are numerous communities and terms named Portland, aside from Portland, Maine. The population here is not relevant, but rather which is the common name regardless of size. TBrandley 03:20, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.