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god of storms[edit]

I removed Poseidon being the god of storms. While Poseidon did create storms, he wasn't consider the god of storms. Zeus did storms too and Poseidon only made storms at sea. The source cited also does not call him a gods of storms but does of the other three. LittleJerry (talk) 01:44, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

"The dangerous power of the sea god, the devastating storm, is always to be reckoned with by seafarer and fisherman," says Burkert in Greek Religion, the source mentioned (p. 137). Burkert also doesn't say that Zeus is the storm god, but "a rain and storm god," and says that his primary characteristic is that he was "the strongest of the gods" and "king" (pp. 126–27). Thetis is called "the sea goddess" (p. 127), but this does not mean that Poseidon cannot be associated with the sea. Again, there was no the god of storms, anymore than Athena was the goddess of wisdom (shared with Apollo). Zeus is also occasionally sacrificed to as a chthonic god, the god of death, and one prays to him and to Demeter when one scatters seed (pp. 200–1). Greek religion was not as neat as you seem to be attempting to make it out to be. Homer and Hesiod brought sense to a variety of conflicting tales, rituals, iconographies, and local traditions, according to Burkert, but the end result was not simply coherent (pp. 119–25). Both Poseidon and Zeus can be associated with storms. The source associates Poseidon with storms, the storm and earthquake being Poseidon's major weapons, so it is proper for the article to note this. RJC TalkContribs 04:05, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
His storm qualities are the product of him being the sea god, so labeling him a god of "storms" is redundant. This will be my last revert. LittleJerry (talk) 02:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Needs to be longer[edit]

C'mon, Poseidon is a very important figure. This article is puny. It doesn't even include his attempt to overthrow Zeus. It should be expanded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.119.216.178 (talk) 06:12, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Was?[edit]

Did he ever die in mythology? This should be changed to is. Last time I checked gods are immortal. TrevorLSciAct (talk) 02:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Last time I checked, Poseidon was nothing but a fairy tale. I think we can speak of the gods of dead religions in the past tense, no? RJC TalkContribs 04:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 72.160.156.46, 17 April 2011[edit]


72.160.156.46 (talk) 00:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 72.160.156.46, 17 April 2011[edit]

May I please edit Pegasus and Chrysaor as children of Poseidon? I promise I will put it back on semi-protection.


72.160.156.46 (talk) 01:01, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Source missing[edit]

The article says: "They agreed that each would give the Athenians one gift and the Athenians would choose whichever gift they preferred. Poseidon struck the ground with his trident and a spring sprang up; the water was salty and not very useful,[18] whereas Athena offered them an olive tree."

What's the source for this? [18] doesn't point to anything.

ICE77 (talk) 06:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.98.39.248, 18 September 2011[edit]

Poseidon (born Eugene Poseidon Theodore Fiskmore III, October 8, 843 B.C. in the Marianas Trench) is the god of the sea, as well as horses, earthquakes, sporks, bubbles, and he is also King of Atlantis. He figured as Rodon in Illyrian mythology, Nethuns in Etruscan mythology, Neptune in Roman mythology, Aquaman in Comic mythology, and King Triton in The Little Mermaid.

92.98.39.248 (talk) 09:33, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done Please don't make edit requests like this with deliberately fictitious information in the future because it just wastes people's time. Anything sensible which you said in your above comment has already been included in the article. Birth dates and places for Gods have evidently not, and will not. Jay Σεβαστόςdiscuss 09:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

No mention of Poseidon in Plato's Critias[edit]

This article makes no mention of Poseidon's role in the Critias tale of Atlantis, where he is husband of the autochtonous Cleito and father of ten children! I think this information is worth appearing in this article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.27.223.52 (talk) 11:00, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Caligula[edit]

Shouldn't it be mentioned about Caligula going to war with Poseidon during his reign over Rome? 86.15.144.198 (talk) 14:42, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 March 2012[edit]

it has appeared to me that for the Poseidon page there is some missing details i would like to add.

Perseus 7777 (talk) 21:22, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Could you please outline the details you think are missing? You should justify their inclusion with reference to reliable scholarly sources, per policy. Alternatively, you can make 10 or more constructive edits to unprotected articles over the next four days; then you'll be WP:autoconfirmed and allowed to edit this article yourself. Haploidavey (talk) 22:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Year numbering[edit]

Near as I can tell, the more recent Version 2 is an attempt to standardize the year numbering in this article. Version 1 has mixed use of the CE/BCE and AD/BC schemes. It would seem Version 2 is more in compliance with WP:ERA, which states, "Use either the BC-AD or the BCE-CE notation, but be consistent within the same article." If there is some argument for keeping Version 1 around, please present it. Equazcion (talk) 00:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

We would need to adopt one system or the other, while there is not consensus across the project for how to resolve that question. WP:ERA provides guidance for writing an article from scratch, but its exhortation to "choose one" doesn't help when the question is which to choose. Best to let sleeping dogs lie, not to pursue an edit against consensus. I'm sure we'd have the same problem if we standardized to BCE/CE as we have now with one user's push toward BC/AD. RJC TalkContribs 04:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
The style manual doesn't specify applying only to new articles. It does specify that one style should be standard within any particular article. Someone has made an edit that brings the article in line with the MOS. If you disagree with the particular way he's done so, propose a change to the other acceptable format; I see no reason to revert to the mixed use that goes against the MOS just because no discussion has taken place yet regarding which to use here. Equazcion (talk) 04:51, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
I've reverted to the most recent single-era version; it seems more consistent with policy (such as it is). Haploidavey (talk) 08:21, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
There is no need for this discussion in the first place; the article had used BC/AD exclusively forever until User:Wetman breached WP:ERA by introducing BCE into the article, creating a mess of mixed formats. I corrected the issue and explained this when I did it. (WP Editor 2011 (talk) 10:32, 9 May 2012 (UTC))
The need for discussion arose when the first set of reverts occurred. I see you went to RJC's talk page to explain, but it's better to use the article talk page for content disputes, to make sure everyone watching the article can see and weigh in on the issue. Equazcion (talk) 11:37, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
That would have legitimised User:RJC's actions, which he didn't even explain with proper reasons. I was correcting a breach of the rules, not suggesting a new idea for the article. (WP Editor 2011 (talk) 12:31, 9 May 2012 (UTC))
So, your reason for not having a discussion is that would have legitimated the need for a discussion? RJC TalkContribs 13:51, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Don't, RJC. WPE2011 could've begun a discussion here as the best option, but that was also your best option. What's your excuse? At least he offered a perfectly reasonable explanation on your talk page -- and you added insult to injury by sticking to your misconception about his edits and dismissing him outright with no coherent response. To WPE, the talk page is for settling disputes about the correct way to apply policy to an article; when multiple reverts happen, the talk page is the next step, whether you feel you're correcting something, or presenting a new idea, or doing anything else that has spawned disagreement. Either way this is now settled, let's move on. Equazcion (talk) 15:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
I think we have different conceptions of what constitutes a "perfectly reasonable explanation." The idea that Wetman's 2007 addition was a deliberate policy violation that was then defended vigorously, Wetman having claimed ownership of the article, is just false. That WP Editor 2011 was simply applying policy five years after the fact rather than pushing an AD/BC vs. CE/BCE perspective also seems dubious. My "excuse" for restricting myself to edit summaries is that my reasons did not extend past a sentence. One does not add insult to injury by calling a spade a spade. And while we all love to play the peacemaker, that love can make us treat both sides in a dispute as though they were equally childish, a treatment born of our desire to play the peacemaker more than taking the time to see what is in fact going on. RJC TalkContribs 17:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
When the issue was introduced into the article is inconsequential. There's no statute of limitations. WPE saw a problem now and corrected it. There's no reason to assume he had some ulterior motive, and he never asserted that Wetman's violation was deliberate. Having only a short explanation for your actions is not an excuse to engage in a revert war instead of moving things to the talk page. If you have short explanations, post them, minus the reverts, until the issue is settled. Equazcion (talk) 17:49, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
I was one of three people who reverted the changes, yet you speak as though this were a two-person dispute. Have you looked at the article history? Have you read what WPE wrote on my talk page?

"Ever since User:Wetman broke the rules in Dec 2007 by taking it upon himself to change the whole article Poseidon from BC to BCE, multiple editors have noticed the problem and tried to correct it, but he keeps changing it back. He was even doing this in the article as recently as last year here, where he didn't even write an edit summary even though he wasn't reverting vandalism. Is that recent enough for you? The problem has only lasted this long because the editor who originally broke the rule has hijacked the article, treating it as his own and preventing other people from correcting it."

Wetman added information and used the BCE system; "changed the whole article" is a bit much, since the problem apparently is that he left the preexisting BC information as it was. "Hijacking" and "ownership" are certainly not how I would have described things. Don't lecture me about AGF (or the appropriate use of Twinkle) just because you want to play the elder statesman. RJC TalkContribs 19:19, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Hijacking and ownership don't denote deliberate policy violations. One could characterize your actions the same way here, though I wouldn't say you were knowingly violating policy. As for "playing the peacekeeper", call it what you like, but it worked. You're welcome. Equazcion (talk) 20:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Poseidon still worshipped (Presov photo)[edit]

It is true and should be also noted that Poseidon is still worshiped somewhere to this day, like in Presov. I am Presov-native and yes, we still worship Poseidon there and still throw great celebration every year, to honor the Poseidon, god of the seas, earthquakes and horses. In fact people of Presov are known as "Konare" in native tongue, means something like 'Horse-people' -PresovNative — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.245.5.110 (talk) 15:02, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

What he represents[edit]

I am Greek and from what I've been taught Poseidon isn't the god of the seas. When the three brothers Zeus Poseidon and Hades had to chose what each one gets Zeus got the skies Hades the underworld and Poseidon the earth including seas and land, that's why he causes earthquakes he isn't limited to the seas but that is what he is broadly known for — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.1.91.195 (talk) 11:15, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Someone's deleted part of this article[edit]

Under 'Consorts and children', there is mention of an expandable list of his multiple consorts and children, yet there is no such list, despite the appropriate heading for it beneath the paragraph. 108.200.39.20 (talk) 00:59, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

It was under markup that made it hidden. Now I'm trying to replace that with markup which will create a show/hide button, but I can't seem to make that work. RyGT (talk) 00:08, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Atlas, son of Poseidon[edit]

There is Atlas, the son of Titan Iapetus and Atlas, the mortal son of Poseidon and Kleite. They are two different beings. The link in the list of children links to the wrong Atlas. There is another link in the "Consorts and children" section that links to the appropriate page (which is currently blank): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atlas_(son_of_Poseidon)

I do not have the editing abilities to fix this. Could someone with the ability please update the link accordingly?

Source: http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/PoseidonFamily.html

Thanks!

PixelOrange

Medusa[edit]

The article says:

"Not all of Poseidon's children were human ... Poseidon also had sexual intercourse with Medusa on the floor of a temple to Athena.[27]

Medusa was then changed into a monster by Athena."

The way this is phrased suggests that she was a monster when Poseidon had her, but she was actually a human, as the next paragraph confirms. I suggest moving the paragraph break.

Skdin (talk) 11:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)joseph is awesome

Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2013[edit]

Please change: Atlas in the "Children" section, to: Atlas. This is because Poseidon was by no means the father of Atlas (mythology), but he was in fact the father of Atlas (first king of Atlantis), and these are by no means the same person.

Thanks

Danyc0 (talk) 05:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Mlpearc (open channel) 01:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Aon[edit]

Came here from Wikiproject Orphanage. Aon has been orphaned since 2009, so I linked to that page from here, which seemed to me the best way to direct to a page about a son of Poseidon. PaintedCarpet (talk) 19:21, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Neptune is the God of seas[edit]

The mythology is mixed up, Neptune is the god of seas, Poseidon is probably Sea Strom God --Neuctoxic (talk) 20:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: There is no mix up. Poseidon is a Greek god, whilst Neptune is the Roman god equivalent. - Danyc0 (talk) 00:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

athens battle request[edit]

please add how he lost the the battle. posiedon and athena had a battle. for athens. athena gave the olive tree which greeks consider to be holy, but all posiedon could give was a useless salwater spring. the city was named after athena, which as you can tell, sounds like athena. please heavily consider my request. thanks! :) BBob24 (talk) 18:08, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:35, 14 April 2014 (UTC)