Talk:Poynings' Law

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Untitled[edit]

a very sloppy article, which needs rewriting by someone knowledgable. Adam 04:16, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

I edited this a bit[edit]

I just added some information to this. Its a part of a paper I wrote. I didn't know how to do the footnote citations, but I added them intext and the full bibliographical information is at the bottom, so if someone wants to change it they can. Or I will try to do figure it out when I have time —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Turbo 22 (talkcontribs) 05:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

Hmmm[edit]

I just figured out that wikipedia does use intext, so I guess they are ok!

Can anybody change the title of the entry? Its "Poynings' Law" not "Poyning's Law" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Turbo 22 (talkcontribs) 07:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

I've queried the spelling at Talk:Edward Poyning#Poyning or Poynings?. Certainly the short title given to the Act by the RoI is spelled "Poynings' Act 1495", though. Silverhelm 16:39, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

I changed it[edit]

I changed it to Poynings' Law for now. Tbe more common way its spelt in the scholarship is Poynings' Law. I was under the impression it didn't have a name like that, but Poynings' Law/Act became nicknames for it, and its conventionally been referred as that since —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Turbo 22 (talkcontribs) 03:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Poyning's or Poynings' ?[edit]

The creator of this law was Sir Edward Poyning, so it seems unlikely that the law should be called Poynings' Law. If it is indeed so called, I think the spelling requires explanation in the article. Maproom 14:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

On checking - I think I'm probably wrong. Google has many more hits for "Poyning " than for "Poynings ", but the Concise Dictionary of National Biography gives the man's name as Poynings, and I think it is more likely to be correct. Maproom 14:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

  • If his name was Poynings, then the article should be Poynings's Law. S apostrophe is only used of plural words. E.g., one car's headlights, ten cars' headlights; this class's white-board, all the classes' white-boards. [According to Fowler's Modern English, cited by Lynne Truss in Eats(,) Shoots and Leaves But she goes on to say that it does not apply to the ancient world, thus Achiles' heel]. So is Poynings sufficiently ancient? I doubt it! Or is it just a common gramatical error - probably!
    • Nuttall Encyclopædia of General Knowledge (1907) calls it "Poynings's Law [1]]
    • The statute law database (which I guess is authoritive) calls it Poynings' Law [2] (but I think that they are blaming the 1951 Government of Northern Ireland for giving it this short title). --Red King 20:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)