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Plural form[edit]

Praetor is a masculine noun of the third declension. The proper plural nominative form is praetes, not praetors (an Anglicized plural)—Kbolino 19:19, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Kbolino! It's a little late to be answering you now, but I will do it for the lady in the front row. The Latin plural is praetores. But maybe you made a typo. I suppose you want to see the latin plural all the time. Then the English speaker who knows no latin will think there's an English mistake there. It is a judgement call.Dave 02:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Because "praetor" is used as a fully anglicized word, the plural "praetors" should be used; if there's a reason to use the Latin, italics would help alleviate confusion: praetores peregrini but "peregrine praetors." Cynwolfe (talk) 13:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Source[edit]

This entire page is almost a copy and paste of the article in the Smith's Dictionary of Greek and Roman Atiquities. And it isn't even credited or mentioned.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Praetor.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.122.123.71 (talkcontribs) 17:51, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Not uncommon for old WP pages, people used be sloppier about that sort of thing. The source is mentioned in the edit summary of the article's creation, but it should be where regular readers can see it too. Feel free to fix! Stan 22:12, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
I've (finally!) added the relevant template to acknowledge this source. Modest Genius talk 15:14, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

First Praetor[edit]

Former text: "===First Praetor=== The first praetor specially so called was appointed in the year 356 BC, and he was chosen only from the Patricians, who had this new office created as a kind of indemnification to themselves for being compelled to share the consulship with the Plebeians. No Plebeian praetor was appointed till the year 337 BC. The Praetor was called collega consulibus, and was elected with the same auspices at the Comitia Centuriata. The consuls were elected first, and then the praetors."

This inaccurately transcribed hash from Smith's inaccurate article is inaccurate. First, it makes it look as though there were two offices, a first praetor and a second praetor. Second, Livy supports a co-election of consuls and praetor. Third, this plagiarism from Smith is just too blatent to let go by. I might put the collega consulibus back in if I can find the words in the sources. Otherwise I count it more phony words by Smith, who was somewhat inventive in his concepts of ancient Rome. Such is the danger of over-zealousness.Dave 04:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


Trivia[edit]

text as of October 19, 2006: Trivia In the Star Trek fictional universe, Praetor is also the title given to the Romulan head of government (by analogy with Rome). In the StarCraft fictional universe, Praetor is a title used by the Protoss to denote the leader of their planet-based defense armies. Protoss Praetors should not be confused with Executors, who command the space fleets, analogous to the difference between a General and Admiral. In the game Final Fantasy X-2, a Praetor is the leader of the New Yevon Party. In the Halo 2 machinima series The Codex, a Praetor is a commander of ground forces, and possibly of space forces as well, within the Covenant. One of the main characters of the series is a Praetor, and much of that character's story arc deals with the extent of a Praetor's authority within the larger military and religious structure of the Covenant.

Is _any_ of this really relevant to the actual article? I myself am a big Star Trek fan, but I do not see the point of connecting _every single thing_ back to Star Trek. Of course this type of thing exists throughout wikipedia. There are types of people who spend much time on wikipedia who are obsessive about certain aspects of popular culture. --Francis Burdett 13:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I move to delete all the "The title in media" stuff. It seems pretty non-notable, and tends to collect every mention in any TV show or video game, however trivial. If no one defends it, I may delete it here before too long. Mlouns 16:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Pronounciation?[edit]

Pray-Tor. Watch Gladiator ("Praetorians"). Unseen Unclean (talk) 19:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Later Roman Praetors[edit]

I'm going to add some info about the praetors of the later roman empire (post East/West split) from John Bury's History of the Later Roman Empire. Hera52 21:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Capitalization and section divisions[edit]

I added section divisions for the urban and peregrin praetors. In articles on individuals who were praetores urbani, it would often be useful to link directly to a section on the specific office rather than having a reader (I still use that old-fashioned term instead of "user") wade through the whole article. Conceivably, the praetor urbanus might merit a separate article which could be cross-referenced.

Also, though I will almost certainly not have the patience today to correct all instances, modern scholarship does not capitalize the offices "praetor", "consul", etc. The style in this article is inconsistent, so I assume someone else at some point has also begun to address this. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:14, 6 March 2009 (UTC)