Talk:Precipitation (chemistry)

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This isn't very good, and reads like it has been written by a grade schooler. (anon user)


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Why chemical reaction[edit]

From your link for definition

Precipitate or the deposit is an insoluble solid formed by reactions in a solution.

Precipitation is also the deposit as result of changing solubility of soluble elements in solid solvent. So chemical reaction is not neccessay. For example carbon can precipitate in steel as pure graphite (theoretically).

Where Does this come from[edit]

"After evaporation, condensation occurs and will slowly turn into a cloud." - This is at the end of the main part of the article and it doesn't make any sense to me. I suggest a deletion. Abcjared 06:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Liquid to solid only???[edit]

I'm not a scientist or anything, but isn't rain also considered precipitation? That's a phase change from gas to liquid, sort of, not liquid to solid. Is this article lacking? I know that tiny water droplets (liquid phase) becoming snow or sleet or hail (solid phase) is precipitation and is thus relevent to the article, but what about rain? I guess water vapor becoming clouds (gas phase becoming liquid phase) isn't considered precipitation, but what about rain? Sorry if I repeat myself. :) --singe@ix.netcom.com 5:01, 28 August 2008 (PST)

Maybe you're looking for Precipitation_(meteorology)? --Rifleman 82 (talk) 17:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

How about the reaction NH3 (g) + HCl (g) --> NH4Cl (s) ?
Ewen (talk) 06:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest that precipitation is the formation of a heavier insoluble pase as a chemical reaction product or as the result of condensation (phase transisition) due to super saturation. Any views? --Johnsarelli (talk) 15:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Classical precipitation theory (with nucleation and growth subcomponents) has been used to characterize virtually all elementary phase combinations, i.e. the formation of solid, liquid, vapor and even vacancy clusters inside solids, liquids and gases. One possible reference to check on this is Sethna's freely available e-text[1]. Hope that helps a bit. Thermochap (talk) 15:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

"Supernatant" redirects to this page, but is not mentioned.[edit]

Perhaps it should be explicitly stated that "supernate" is synonymous with "supernatant". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.186.1.188 (talk) 00:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I had always assumed that "supernate" was a mispronounciation and corruption of "supernatant". Is it a real word? I cannot find "supernate" in the dictionary. 152.5.254.22 (talk) 19:27, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Footnotes[edit]

  1. ^ James P. Sethna (2006) Entropy, order parameters and complexity (Oxford U. Press, Oxford UK) (e-book pdf).

Primery and secondary[edit]

Hello, Is it possible to elaborate more on primery vs. secondary precipitation?
For example, in relation to crystal growth.
Thanks, Omer. http://sites.google.com/site/omermar/ 07:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Omermar (talkcontribs)

precipitant[edit]

Although I am not familiar with precipitation, a document I am looking at seems to indicate that the substance used to cause precipitation is called a "precipitant," "precipitating agent," or the like. 67.101.6.76 (talk) 05:59, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Representation using chemical equations[edit]

What about the very common practice, often encountered in textbooks, of representing the precipitation of solids out of the liquid pase with a downwards-pointing arrow (↓)? --Tomásdearg92 (talk) 13:58, 4 December 2011 (UTC)