Talk:President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (LDS Church)

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COGDEN, I am curious to know the reason of the name change of this page. LDS Apostles have asked the the word Apostle be dropped (avoid its often use, and there are other Apostles ordained from time to time that are not assigned membership in the quorum). However, I'd like your reasoning before giving mine on why it should be changed back. Especially from a historical point of view and locating scheme. It may be more correct, but does it make it harder to find? Would a common misperception correction in the first paragraph suffice? -Visorstuff 23:28, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Maybe you are right. My reasoning was that Quorum of the Twelve was more correct historically, and I wasn't sure that other denominations had adopted the same terminology. But the addition of "Apostles" seems to be in pretty common use, even in the Community of Christ, where the Quorum is called the Council of Twelve, but informally it is called the Council of Twelve Apostles. I'm okay with changing it back. COGDEN 07:51, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

One other reason is that there are "councils of twelve" on the stake level. This structural similarity and responsiblity of the various councils is more noticible how the COC Twelve Apostles operate, in my opinion. There are additional reasons as well, however, I will not add to any confusion of the issue anymore. Good change, I think it is accurate enough. -Visorstuff 23:16, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

My two cents on the matter. Consult your November 2005 edition of the [i]Ensign[/i]. Look at the brown box on page three that lists the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve. You will see that it comes without reference to the word "apostle." Now turn to the General Authority chart on page 64. Under the First Presidency pictures is the title "Quorum of the Twelve Apostles." Note also that in that magazine every member of the Twelve that speaks has "Quorum of the Twelve Apostles" under his name. I don't know where you got the notion that the Church doesn't use the title Apostle, and I haven't found any documentation to the effect that this is official Church policy. Another thing. What you call a "council of the twelve" on the stake level is properly referred to as the "stake high council." It has never been referred to as a council, and the proper title for members of the Stake High Council is High Councilman. I hope this information is helpful to you. --Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable 02:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

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