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Presidential Directives are not Executive Orders[edit]

Please see the section by this name on the discussion page on executive orders.

WagePeace (talk) 12:41, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Links 2 & 3 are broken[edit]

I tried looking up the sources 2&3 claiming that some presedential directives are classified on 'fas.org'--the links are broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.220.156.47 (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Fundamentally incorrect[edit]

The amount of cross- and mis-information in this area is getting to be too much for me...

This article should be titled "National Security Instruments" and all subtypes based in/on National Security Council policies should redirect to it.

A Presidential directive (also known as an 'Executive instrument' to a lesser degree) is the generic general or main category used for classifying the various types of recognized and/or official issuances made by the President (or as delegated within the Executive). The following "tree" depicts those various types of Presidential directives, past & present, in no particular degree or importance in relation to one another (i.e. alphabetical list!) except for National Security Instruments (basically the historical timeline of use)


Presidential Directives
  • Administrative Orders
  • Certificates
  • Designations of Officials
  • Executive Orders
  • General Licenses
  • Homeland Security Presidential Directives
  • Interpretations
  • Letters [typically on Tariffs and International Trade, sometimes to/re: Congress]
  • Military Orders
  • National Security Instruments
    • National Security Council Policy Papers
    • National Security Action Memoranda
    • National Security Study Memoranda and National Security Decision Memoranda
    • Presidential Review Memoranda and Presidential Directives
    • National Security Study Memoranda and National Security Decision Directives
    • National Security Reviews and National Security Directives
    • Presidential Review Directives and Presidential Decision Directives
    • National Security Presidential Directives
    • Presidential Study Directives and Presidential Policy Directives
  • Presidential Announcements
  • Presidential Findings
  • Presidential Reorganization Plans
  • Proclamations
  • Regulations
Notes:
  1. Homeland Security Presidential Directives are not technically National Security Instruments because they are not developed by/within the National Security Council. They are the domain of the Homeland Security Council (only 10 years old btw). HSPDs are, however, frequently issued at the same time and/or in conjunction with a similar, refined, related, etc. National Security Instrument - thus creating the confusion for most folks. It is hard to separate the two if one does not keep in mind which 'Council' is behind the issuance in short.
  2. [Presidential] Memoranda can fall under more than one heading (such as Administrative Orders, Designations, Interpretations) depending on its subject matter or scope.
  3. A [Presidential] Notice can fall under more than one heading (such as Administrative Orders, Announcements, Interpretations, Findings) depending on its subject matter or scope.
  4. A Presidential Determination can fall under more than one heading (such as Administrative Orders, Findings, Announcements) depending on its subject matter or scope.
  5. Throughout history and to this day, certain types are somewhat "dependent" on other types (a Certificate was most likely preceeded by a Proclamation for example)
  6. Certain types must be published by law while other types are left up to the discretion of the President (or NARA) to decide the level of circulation/publication. Of course, some are only available through formal request (FOIA) and still others never see the light of day during one's lifetime because they are classified for National security reasons and the like.


Most, if not all, of this info can be collected from just a handful of Committee Prints and CRS Reports to Congress. I'd love to straighten this and several similarly screwed up articles out as they pertain to the U.S. Presidency but being more of Wikisource-rat than a Wikipedia one, I'm not sure where to even start asking. -- George Orwell III (talk) 01:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Carter era[edit]

The list and many documents are avaiable through the Carter Library / NARA - http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.gov/documents/pddirectives/pres_directive.phtml rhyre (talk) 14:36, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Obama Presidential Policy Directives[edit]

Presidential Policy Directive 20 should be added/mentioned in the article

https://www.hsdl.org/?abstract&did=725668

http://epic.org/privacy/cybersecurity/presidential-directives/presidential-policy-directive-20.pdf

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/obama-china-targets-cyber-overseas

The Department of Homeland security publishes a list of policy directives including abstract, and all of them should be listed in the article: https://www.hsdl.org/?search=&page=1&all=presidential+policy+directive&searchfield=title&collection=limited&submitted=Search --Kistano (talk)