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- 1 Greek versus Roman attitudes
- 2 Satyricon
- 3 In The Ancient World
- 4 Personal essay "Modern confusion and ancient meaning"
- 5 Categorization
- 6 herm -> herma
- 7 Mutinus, Mutunus, or Tutinus but not Priapus
- 8 Depictions
- 9 Redundancy
- 10 Garden gnome?
- 11 I don't get it
- 12 Wordplay
- 13 Article Needs Moderator Attention
- 14 He is from roma
- 15 this source seems questionable at best
Greek versus Roman attitudes
Perhaps it should be worth mentioning that Priapus was treated with much less respect in Rome than he was treated with in Greece? - Frank Keizer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 21:40, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Would it be possible for someone to add something to this article about the portrayal of Priapus and his priests in the Satyricon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 20:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
In The Ancient World
I find it hard to believe that the ancient Romans would prefer small penises on men. I'd love to see some citations on this.
I can see that they represented warriors, etc. with flaccid penises but had they preferred smaller penises on men, surely they would have scuplted guys with small (but obviously erect) penises? As I said, I'd love to see some citations on this.
I'm not even sure that "straight women" really care much either way about the size of men's genitalia but once again, it'd be cool to see some citations on this. (And anyway... straight women? What? ALL of them? Which country or society are we talking about?) Vince In Milan 03:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Personal essay "Modern confusion and ancient meaning"
I'm quite sure that if I had written this essay on the "ancient colorization [sic] of Priapus", it would have elicited reproaches of original "research" and demands for citations. Is it the amateurish character that makes this excursus on penis size and gods who can't get a date so reassuringly familiar and acceptable? --Wetman 11:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to move this article from Category:Sexuality in the classical world to its newly created subcat Category:Ancient Greek eros? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
herm -> herma
I'm changing herm, which links to the island, to herma, which links to the marker. I'm pretty sure that's the right place for it to go.. herma is a variant spelling of herm and I'm going with how the articles are named. Perel 03:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Mutinus, Mutunus, or Tutinus but not Priapus
I'm not a scholar on ancient Greek mythology, but I have done a lot of reading on it lately. It seems to me that there's a pretty clear differentiation between Mutunus (however you care to spell it) and Priapus, at least in early mythology. Mutunus was a god of fertility, sought by new brides or childless wives; Priapus a protector and sometimes a humorous exaggeration. The best I can find are secondary sources (http://www.albany.edu/faculty/lr618/1mut.html for instance), so maybe those sources are wrong. But it does seem like Mutunus should at least get a short page of his own. Revdrace 08:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Under the Depictions subsection, the following translation of an epigram is provided:
"I warn you, my lad, you will be sodomised; you, my girl, I shall futter; for the thief who is bearded, a third punishment remains."
No source is identified for the above quote, and I'm questioning the word "futter," since I can't find a definition or even a listing for such a word. Among other sources, I searched via the Oxford English Dictionary and the closest word I found was regarding "futter" as the early spelling representing the pronunciation of Maori whata, a food-store raised on posts.
- "Futter" is apparently a coining of Sir Richard Francis Burton, deriving from the Latin word "futuere", "to fuck". Presumably it was a bowdlerisation of the true meaning of the word. At any rate, I've replaced the existing unsourced quotation with a translation from a modern source, along with the original Latin. -- ChrisO 01:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Based on the statuette it would seem obvious that he is the ancestor of modern day garden gnomes. That is, if there's any documentation about him being placed in gardens for ornamentation or superstitious reasons. Wormwoodpoppies (talk) 20:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
The resemblance is striking indeed. Judging from the image description however, it is not even certain that the statuette is in fact a depiction of Priapus. I have seen quite a lot of images of similar hooded Gallo-roman statuettes that are commonly believed to depict the Genius cucullatus (who is also associated with fertility/shown with oversized phallus, reference: http://books.google.co.jp/books?id=K6wOAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA185&dq=Genii+Cucullati+phallus&hl=nl&ei=W0XmTYrqBoiaOoaP8dgJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Genii%20Cucullati%20phallus&f=false ), or sometimes Telesphorus. Can anyone confirm this, or explain why it is in fact more likely to be a statuette of Priapus? Timusuke (talk) 14:01, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't get it
- Ah well, that was the curse of Priapus. He always had an erection but he lost it every time he actually tried to have sex... -- ChrisO (talk) 01:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Absolutely. This is a real point of confusion in the actual article. I'd try to fix it, but I don't know enough about it to avoid getting it right. The explanation given here is crucial and would be very helpful at the top of the real article. Tojasonharris (talk) 08:30, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Also, I'd like to commend whoever wrote this article for this sentence, "He was best noted for his huge, permanent erection, which gave rise to the medical term priapism." The play on words has not gone unnoticed. --Chili — [Unsigned comment added by Nofxrasta (talk • contribs) 04:40, 24 April 2010 (UTC).]
Article Needs Moderator Attention
This sentence seems unlikely, at best:
He is from roma
lol, he is italian hero, in karabiga the talented youth only into classic arts especially girit or yörük backround youth until midages before being busy muslim and dads moms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
this source seems questionable at best
- In Greece, the phallus was thought of to have a mind of its own, animal-like, separate from the mind and control of the man.
It quotes some
- Csapo, Eric. 1997. "Riding the Phallus for Dionysus: Iconology, Ritual, and Gender-Role De/Construction." Phoenix 51.3/4: 260.
That doesn't look as a serious source but as a some bullshit book, I would like to see actual *ancient* source that greeks thought that the phallus had 'a mind of its own', not from second/third hands in the interpretation of modern 'scholars'.
Also I delete this line
- Represented in its erect form, the phallus was present in almost every aspect of daily life, reaffirming the male-dominant state of affairs in its overt presence.
- Keuls, Eva C. 1985. The Reign of the Phallus: Sexual Politics in Ancient Athens. University of California Press: Berkeley and Los Angeles: 4-5.