Talk:Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter

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Unsigned comment[edit]

This is not a fundamentalist group, certainly not in the Christian sense of the word "Fundamentalism", which typically acknowledges a literal, plain reading of the Bible as the only authority in Christianity. The FSSP has the typical Catholic view of juggling a wide range of authoritative documents, including Church Doctors and Fathers, Holy Tradition, Papal promulgations, and ecumenical councils, as well as the incorporation of various philosophical systems into Christianity. The FSSP accepts the decrees of the Second Vatican Council and they are in full communion with the Popes since that council. They are distinctive becasue they use the old Rites and artistic traditions of of the Catholic Church. If the implication of the term 'Fundamentalist' is 'reactionary', then the categorization of "Christian fundamentalism" is NPOV. --02:05, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Member numbers[edit]

Can someone give the current member numbers, please? --Benedikt 07:03, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

According to their website [1], they have 300 members consisting of 180 priests, 13 deacons and 107 seminarians. NuncAutNunquam Talk 01:21, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Accusations of antisemitism[edit]

This group is accused of including antisemitic prayers in their masses, at least in some instances (e.g. reported by Der Spiegel 8/2009). Could somebody more knowledgeable please provide more detail? 71.142.254.57 (talk) 02:15, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I think this only refers to their use of the liturgical prayer regarding the conversion of Jews on Good Friday, as per the wording of the Divine Office that was in use until the Council of Vatican II. The FSSP being a traditionalist community, it uses these formulas of prayer. However, this particular prayer was modified by Pope Benedict XVI to appear less offensive, a few years ago. On this occasion, the Society of Saint Pius X, which does not accept Roman decisions (not deemed enough "traditional") issued a statement to say that it would continue to use the old wording. However, the FSSP accepted the new one; they even provided the Gregorian notation to fit the prayer singing ( http://www.fsspolgs.org/audio/sheets/ProConversioneIudaeorum.pdf ). In other words, there might have been confusion in the media, due to the fact that the FSSP originated from an internal "schism" within the traditionalist movement in 1988, when a few priests and seminarians quit the SSPX to create the new priestly fraternity in allegiance to Rome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.55.85.97 (talk) 01:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

more info[edit]

there is not any thing about camp St Peter in the black hills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.250.84.10 (talk) 18:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

List of parishes and mass centres[edit]

This section seems to have taken over the entire article. Perhaps listing every parish that the F.S.S.P. is unneccessary. (Imagine if the article for Order of Friars Minor did the same!) Wikipedia is not a directory or a phone book. I think it would suffice to condense the section into maybe a few very important parishes (but how to decide that), or just a digestion like: "The F.S.S.P. runs parishes and mass centres in the following countries, provinces, and states..." Opinions? — AlekJDS talk 03:16, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Just noticed it, Wikipedia is NOT a directory. If the church is notable, then a link might be acceptable, but we do not list every Church that is FFPS.---Balloonman Poppa Balloon 23:56, 21 August 2011 (UTC)