Talk:Princess

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[edit] Disputed

Deriving "princess" from "prince's" sounds like folk etymology to me. "Princess" is cognate to "principessa" in Italian, which can't be heard as a possessive of "principe"--moreover the "essa" ending in Italian", "esse" in French, and "ess" in English, are used for lots of other words, and none of them sound like possessives in the Romance languages. --Trovatore 04:32, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Historical Princesses

Is the said section really necesarry? I mean, there have been many more Princesses (and many of them much, much more famous) then are listed.

[edit] Source?

do dey eat. i love princessess and drama queen.

Why are there no references to back any of this up? Without them, this entire article is suspect.

[edit] "Princess" in French

In French, Princess is Princesse (PREEN-say). However, the "S" is normally silent in French, such as "Francais (fron-SAY)", which means "French language". --PJ Pete princess is pretty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.103.4.66 (talk) 05:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Princess Rinnell Gillis

Who exactly is this "Princess Rinnell Gillis"? There's no Wikipage on her, and a Google search only comes back with two hits, both of which are clones of this entry. If this is a real person (and if there's a legitimate reason to include her on an encyclopedic list of princesses), is there a source that can be cited? Benscripps 02:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a vanity/hoax entry to me. Unless someone can provide a verifiable source for "Princess Rinnell," I'm going to keep deleting her from the article. PubliusFL 05:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional Princesses

This list is starting to overwhelm the actual article. And the insertion with entries like Mulan, on the basis that "according to Disney she's a princess," it's even starting to have fictional characters who are fictionally princesses (i.e. not even princesses in their fictional context). I suggest that the fictional princesses section either be deleted or spun off into its own list article. PubliusFL 23:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well just because certain people do not like the fact Mulan is considered a fictional princess it should not be deleted, if anything it could be spun of into it's own article.--Sugarcubez 01:39, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
I really don't think that was what Publius was getting at. I deleted the section, simply because it's irrelevant. It's more useful as a seperate article, and the section was being dominated by "favorites". The princesses listed were simply fan favorites, not composed of entirely notable and influential fictional princesses. If that's even possible. Flutterby Lullaby (talk) 21:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

what do princessess do.

Attend social events a lot and go around shaking people's hands, as well as charitable stuff, I'll bet. And try to keep away from the media, if you're in some tabloid-crazy culture such as Britain, I'll also bet. 204.52.215.107 14:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
A lot of them attend social and charity events, engage in philanthropy, act as cultural ambassaders, attend government ceramonies and functions, represent their country socially and sometimes politically, endorse artists and athletes, etc. Tarheelz123 (talk) 20:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Poor quality

The first part of this article is of rather poor quality. It simply consists of a series of contentious assertions with no evidence to back them up. I think this taints the article's presentation on the topic and gives it a charged tone. The first part of the article portrays princesses as nothing more than some pitiable piece of property. I don't believe that this portrayal is consistent with any common perception of what a princess is or was. Unless people can step forward and provide real evidence supportive of that narrative, I propose that all of the sentences labeled with 'original research' and 'citation needed' be deleted from the first part of the article. I further propose that the first part of the article be rewritten to give a simple and non-contentious overview of what a princess is. Any objections?71.115.24.62 (talk) 14:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Princess Mridula?

Princess Mridula of India is a redlink. I can't find anything on Google about this person. Can anyone back this entry up, or should it be removed? PubliusFL (talk) 16:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Since no one else can come up with anything, I've removed the questionable entry. PubliusFL (talk) 23:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alternate use for Muslim "queens"

The wife of the King in a Muslim country, when the woman is Muslim, is referred to as Princess even though she has the power and respect of a queen. However if a Muslim King marries a Christian, she is called a queen. --zephrys 23:57, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greek Princesses

As Greece has been a republic since 1974, it's hard to see how they have princesses. Apepper (talk) 21:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

There is still a royal family. Infact the Prince-regent of the UK, husband of Queen Elizabeth II of the UK, is a Greek prince.Tarheelz123 (talk)

[edit] "feminine form of prince"

This is a question, not a criticism. It says that "princess" is the "feminine form of prince". Is this an even-handed way of putting things? (So, for instance, why does the 'Prince' entry not say that "prince" is the "masculine form of princess"?) Is there some, say, historical or linguistic reason that this is the correct way to put things? DaveLanglois (talk) 15:24, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

AStara IS the ONLy !!! PRINCEss !!!!! she is the one and ONly MEAning of !! this !!! is a big fake and a Lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So forget AStara —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angel Paola (talk • contribs) 01:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Why does Prinzessin redirect here?

What is a Prinzessin, and why does the Prinzessin page redirect here? Is it a different translation of Princess? Could someone mention Prinzessin on the page and explain how it relates to a Princess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.244.99 (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Prinzessin is the German translation for Princess. Since Germany abolished their royal familie's titles in the 20th century, "Prinz"(Prince) and "Prinzessin"(Princess) became surnames. The 'princes' and 'princesses' are still addressed as "Your Highness" in Germany, but not for being the rulers. They are royal members of Princely Houses. So if you were formally a "Princess of Anhalt" your last name would be "Prinzessin von Anhalt". (Tarheelz123 15:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] List of princesses

There is a crying need for a list of princesses, in the explicit meaning of a living female heir of a monarch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lapasotka (talk • contribs) 23:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese & Turkish

Gongzhu(Chinese) > Kunçuy (Old Turkic) Böri (talk) 09:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Princesses in fiction and folklore

There desperately needs to be a section on Princesses in fiction and folklore. After all, princesses have a much more significant place in folklore and fiction than they do in reality. 97.113.106.78 (talk) 23:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

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